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    Pushing Hands (T'ui Shou)

    Hello,

    Allow me to begin by asking, how many of you have heard of Pushing Hands?

    For those who haven't, it's a method in Tai Chi Quan used for helping you learn application. There is even a similar practice in Wing Chun. Pushing hands is the idea of feeling your opponent's movements. When you feel your opponent's movements, you can feel where they're going to direct their attack. This is probably one of the most practical methods of learning in my opinion.

    It's almost treated like a game of "Who can push who over." By practicing this, you're learning how to redirect your center of balance out of the enemy's reach. Very practical in my opinion. The center of your body is located from the top of your head, to the middle down. From there, you can turn your bodies in different directions while keeping stability in your legs and figuring out your enemies position.

    This also teaches you the best opportunities to realize when your opponent is off balance and why he is off balance. It is definitely a fun practice, especially when you have a partner to do it with.
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    There are threads about this already, like this one for example:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...t=87441&page=1
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    Oh, my apologies. I did not find it.
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    Believe it or not, we do have taiji practitioners on this site. That includes a couple push hands champions.
    Combatives training log.

    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

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    Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.
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    These threads always make me want to focus more on tai Chi. If only there were more hours in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    Believe it or not, we do have taiji practitioners on this site. That includes a couple push hands champions.
    Serious question, my knowledge is very limited on this topic: How does push hands (T'ui Shou) relate to sticking hands (Chi Sao).
    I sat in on three weeks of Wing Chun and have sparred with about ten practitioners over the past few years. Obviously, this left me with questions about the finer points of in-fighting.

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    There's overlap but sticking hands and pushing hands are different in that sticking hands is more about finding gaps to strike through, whereas pushing hands is more focussed on taking the other person's balance.
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    Thanks, that makes perfect sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion View Post
    There's overlap but sticking hands and pushing hands are different in that sticking hands is more about finding gaps to strike through, whereas pushing hands is more focussed on taking the other person's balance.
    Speaking of push hands champions.....
    Combatives training log.

    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

    Drum thread

    Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.
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    Discussion of PH vs CH:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57922 Pay attention to Jack Rusher and Tom Kagan. There are others, but yeah.
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