Page 4 of 9 First 12345678 ... Last
  1. #31
    itwasntme's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Norf Carolina, throw ya hands up
    Posts
    1,715
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    Did anyone else think this was kind of strange? Cause baring teeth isn't always a submissive display; it can be the opposite. It can be "hey bitch, see these pointy motherfuckers in my mouth? Well they're about to puncture the **** outta your hide if you don't stand down."
    You mean something akin to the smiling opponent fighting back?

    How do we know that aggression reflects mental state and not emotional state?
    I'm sorry if I was unclear. I was addressing the fact that the added aggressiveness of the non-smiling fighter was not reported to be due to any emotional surge. Not that it was reported to be the opposite either.

    I was really just trying to clarify that part of the report for those who hadn't read it but were reading the thread.

  2. #32
    ChenPengFi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Hawai'i
    Posts
    5,327
    Style
    Hung Gar, Choy Lay Fut
    4
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post

    I was really just trying to clarify ...
    You're the last person who should attempt anything of the sort.

  3. #33
    Permalost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    13,842
    Style
    street paddleboarding
    1
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    You mean something akin to the smiling opponent fighting back?
    I mean that baring teeth can be a dominance display, the opposite of a submission display.

    I was addressing the fact that the added aggressiveness of the non-smiling fighter was not reported to be due to any emotional surge.
    -Can you define "added aggressiveness" of the non-smiling fighter?
    -"added aggressiveness" was probably not reported to be due to any emotional surge because how the hell would you quantify that?
    -You haven't done any studies to show that the added aggressiveness (?) was due to an emotional surge, just like they haven't studied that its not.

    Not that it was reported to be the opposite either.
    So its probably outside the scope of the article.

    I was really just trying to clarify that part of the report for those who hadn't read it but were reading the thread.
    **** those guys. I don't see any need to accommodate people in a thread about an article they can't be bothered to read.

    Quote Originally Posted by doofaloofa View Post
    Yet amongst humans a smile is pretty much a universal gesture of friendliness
    That's why people inadvertently piss off certain animals by staring at them with a smile.

  4. #34
    Tranquil Suit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    4,162
    Style
    Pumping iron
    3
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Well Doof, time to test out your theory. Go to a zoo, climb into a cage of a silverback, and give him a nice long smile. Don't forget to show your teeth.
    go to http://www.bullshido.net/forums/prof...do=editoptions > under Thread Display Options > Number of Posts to Show Per Page: 40

  5. #35
    gregaquaman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Arlie Beach
    Posts
    2,903
    Style
    mma /boxing/muai thai
    1
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Now fighting for self defence and fighting for fun. And animal bechaviour. One thing I noticed when working with guys with dogs is that they will wag their tail when they eat people.

    This is because it is trained into them as a game.
    Whitsunday Martial Arts Airlie Beach North Queensland.
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/WhitsundayMartialArts

  6. #36
    itwasntme's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Norf Carolina, throw ya hands up
    Posts
    1,715
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    I mean that baring teeth can be a dominance display, the opposite of a submission display.
    Could it not be passive aggressive? eg "I don't want trouble, but I'll stand my ground"?

    What you added was pretty much what Ignoscant already quoted, that this can't be quantified by this research. A smile could still mean different things from person to person, context to context.

    My wording was poor when I mentioned "added aggression". I was referring to the suggested higher levels of aggression in the non-smiling fighter.

  7. #37

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Lafayette, IN
    Posts
    1,138
    Style
    BJJ/MT
    1
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It's not a horrible paper but the fact that they failed to differentiate between Duchenne and non-Duchenne smiles in their analysis sucks. That they didn't draw more attention to the fact that very few of the smiles they were examing were genuine smiles while continuing to call it smile intensity is even worse.

    Of course, they can't be blamed for what the popular media does with their work.
    Last edited by wetware; 6/11/2013 5:09am at .

  8. #38
    battlefields's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Australia, Land of Oz
    Posts
    5,281
    Style
    BJJ/ MMA/ MT
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit View Post
    I'd agree with this in a fight, but not so much in sparring.





    During sparring, I've noticed that those who occasionnally smile are the ones that are levels better than me.

    Grinning motherfuckers.
    I was just making the connection to the "you fight how you train" stuff. It helped me focus, smiling could end in me goofing off a bit sometimes so training it out of me during the time I am meant to be serious was required. Especially when I am training for a fight.
    GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.

  9. #39
    Permalost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    13,842
    Style
    street paddleboarding
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    Could it not be passive aggressive? eg "I don't want trouble, but I'll stand my ground"?
    Could be a lot of things. Thus my initial complaint that they said plainly that baring teeth is a submissive display.

  10. #40
    W. Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    10,822
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This tiger shows his teeth, almost seems friendly right?

    He's most likely communicating to this girl "if this cage wasn't here I'd be eating you and your family, right now".


Page 4 of 9 First 12345678 ... Last

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO