Thread: Pics from Turkey
6/04/2013 7:38am, #11
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Religion vs. Secularism only comes in to it in the way that Erdogan's remaining supporters mostly consist of religious people - a group he tries to hold by any populistic symbol-policy possible.
6/04/2013 1:57pm, #12
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...t=#post2767137 Bentmyass lacks integrity and perception and brains, and is sadly very defensive. While Devil is flippant.
Istanbul. My daughter spent months there and loved it. She described the miles long weekend street parties - the streets turned into pedestrian malls with music and food. My Quaker friends did months in Turkey and loved it. It's on my bucket list and I hope and pray for the people. Once again the fundamentalists, the corrupt, and military are killing and imprisoning. To disparage the people who are putting their lives on the line for freedom is despicable.
The pattern of the struggle for RIGHTS has many enemies. To prejudice, segregation, apartheid, racism, war, exploitation, and oppression we should add Xenophobia. (Xenophobia = very human but irrational or unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange).
It's like "How do you define ignorance and apathy?" "I don't know and I don't care."
The morally inept, the selfish, the dullards and fools are never politically or spiritually involved. Empathy and sympathy elude their little souls. Karma? I hope we all can grow.
And it's like dealing with the biker two nights ago. The wife and I are having a nice meal in Pahoa. Biker roars his harley by the open windows and doors, then parks. When he gets to the bar the guys there say, somewhat joking, that was you being obnoxious? When we left I told him he was obnoxious and his response was to smile and say thank you. What can you say? I have a wonderful wife, a new house on the hill overlooking Hilo, friends and lovers and can side kick your face and he's a little twerp with loud pipes.
If he was on the internet he could share his loser persona."Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
6/04/2013 2:14pm, #13
Stating that that's all there is to that country--or that such is prominent at all times--is something that can only be done by an individual who gets all his "information" from report-bad-****-only media.
You have decided to be that individual.
...if they ever decide to leave the dark age and give up their hate...
Even your report-only-bad-**** media have reported that what the protestors hate is the attempt to pull the country back into the dark ages.
...then maybe I could see your point.
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I would like to visit Turkey; the history is amazing. I am fascinated by the Byzantine part of it and have not even explored the Ottoman history in any detail yet. Also with all the issues in the Middle East since the Ottoman Empire fell it is amazing to see it circle back to Turkey. I hope all the best for the people; just as I did for the other Mid East countries. I am not optimistic; but maybe its Western ties and NATO membership will help achieve a better outcome