All nutriders own their comments. that video is nothing special. He builds the same false dichotomy of street vs ring that we fight against and keeps arts separated.
I despise that ****. Ideally, you should be able to take ANY ART and get the same quality teaching. His type of thinking and talking keeps the versus debate ongoing. Yes, BJJ does it as well, but they prove it in and out of the ring on a regular basis.
OK I just lost some respect for the guy and it had nothing to do with Chun.
What kind of moron records a Youtube video while driving his car?
The dumbass just put himself and everyone on the road at risk for no fucking reason.
Maybe he has the real Chun. Maybe not. Now I just don't care.
In NJ, he'd deserve one of our state's new $400 tickets for distracted driving.
Yep, moronic. And he's a cop/ex cop!
Originally Posted by W. Rabbit
IIF i somehow edited the sport vs street comparison into being him stating different strategies apply..guess i should watch it again.
He is stating different strategies, which I like, but he starts emphasizing sport vs street in his articles and videos.
Originally Posted by Resonance10
Chun is about attacking, just like boxing.
Chun is about angles, just like boxing.
Chun is about footwork, just like boxing.
They just go about it different. Trying to say chun is different because "sport isn't what it is about" has led to the elitism inherent in the style.
That starts at about the 3:59 mark.
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Watched it again, do see what you mean. He his head and shoulders above most teachers of chun in his approach but seems to want to have it both ways where WC is concerned suddenly going blind when looking at another art. Which is odd as he seems to have some boxing training. Will check out his blog.
Some of his articles are hard to read after being on bullshido. It is like a jekll and hyde personality. It's like:
Originally Posted by Resonance10
Me: Wow that's a very good idea I like what you are say....wait...what...?
Me: You would have won state, in wrestling, 4 years in a row if you knew wing chun?
Yes, I know, someone will come in and start talking about principles and mindset. Stop it. If you didn't learn that mindset in a competition venue, it isn't going to magically appear because you learned a CMA before you wrestled.
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The way I heard him, he is claiming Chun is good for the start of an exchange, after that it is pretty useless unless you just stay completely outside striking range, wait to be attacked again, and then apply Chun again.
If they stay inside the boxer's striking range, a Chunner can, in fact, die. His words not mine.
Yes, driving and filming was not the best example to set, however I wore the sunglasses so it appeared that I was looking at the camera, when in fact I was looking ahead the whole time. In any regard, there is part 2 to our wrestling vs wing chun on our youtube channel. Hope you enjoy!
Izzo Tactical Combat
Welcome to Bullshido. Here's a link to the video you mentioned.
Originally Posted by DominickIzzo
Being unable to edit I'm going to have to double post.
That video was an interesting attempt to apply your concepts to the wrestling environment live, but I'm unconvinced on a few points. Since you've signed up here now anyway it'd be cool if you'd indulge me.
Now I can appreciate that your floor was unmatted so you wanted to avoid actually going down, but how much can you really know about your defence when your opponent isn't allowed to drive hard for the double? I know they could lift, but some takedowns don't involve much lifting before your butt goes down; how do you know you could have stopped those?
Besides that, those wrestlers did manage some lifts (which will, admittedly, even happen to the best), after which you made some "suggestions". You asked the viewer to imagine what could have happened if you'd been allowed to strike, which is an interesting thought experiment, but thought experiments haven't traditionally gotten fighters very far.
All this to say that this video is a good first step, but why not take it all the way and show full-contact sparring while trying out the concepts? That would be interesting and, importantly, more convincing.
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