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    Quick scan of the ISSACQB website. The operate out of the same Regus Centre as does Spencer and the ICA.

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    International Combat Authority

    Interesting wording on their website.

    "The ISSA CQB/CQC SA System licence is the only ISSA CQC licence in the world that is internationally recognised. It is supported by various governments worldwide (including the English & Welsh government). We have support and backing from the Poppy Appeal and the MOD. All of the training and licensing is governed very strictly to make sure all UK, US, EU and UN laws are followed at all times and that our licensees always conduct themselves to the highest level of compliance."

    Similar wording to the ICA being the licensing body for CQB.

    Not sure what the links are between the ICA and this organisation yet (other than the same address) but I'm sure we can do some digging.

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    Hey, can I get that last post deleted or can I edit it? X has said there's more information about them in there than they're comfortable with. I'll re-write the post.

    EDIT: Please? X is e-mailing me repeatedly and is really worried their cover is blown.
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    International Combat Authority

    I had a quick scan of the ISSA website. Looks like they are doing training in the Middle East.

    One thing I was interested in was their training course list.
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    What drew my attention was their "Special Air Services (SAS) Selection Courses". I reckon I might give that a go, I'm sure having special forces on my CV would look good.

    In seriousness - not sure how they could offer this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio View Post
    Interesting wording on their website.

    "The ISSA CQB/CQC SA System licence is the only ISSA CQC licence in the world that is internationally recognised. It is supported by various governments worldwide (including the English & Welsh government). We have support and backing from the Poppy Appeal and the MOD. All of the training and licensing is governed very strictly to make sure all UK, US, EU and UN laws are followed at all times and that our licensees always conduct themselves to the highest level of compliance."

    Similar wording to the ICA being the licensing body for CQB.

    Not sure what the links are between the ICA and this organisation yet (other than the same address) but I'm sure we can do some digging.
    Somewhere along the line the International Star Security Alliance/Iraq Star Security Alliance were affiliated to the ICA. I couldn't find anything on why the two split. Back in one of the CPWorld threads I linked, a poster turns up slating the ISSA and bigging up the ICA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio View Post
    What drew my attention was their "Special Air Services (SAS) Selection Courses". I reckon I might give that a go, I'm sure having special forces on my CV would look good.

    In seriousness - not sure how they could offer this.
    The only people who really know what's involved in SF selection, are the soldiers who've undertaken that process and the Regiment instructors who deliver the selection course. Yes there's an amount of information publicly known. The specific technical knowledge isn't. What many of these publicly advertised courses actually contain is fitness based training. Beyond that, unless you're fortunate to have an ex-regiment trooper as an instructor you're not going to be getting an insight into SF training.

    Regular soldiers applying for or accepted for selection do not seek a third party company to provide their pre-selection ramp-up. This is provided by their employers.

    Take any training advertised as such with a large grain of salt. And move on.
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    How likely/unlikely is it to have two independent companies selling the same specialist products from virtually the same business address ? We've already seen there's been a previous business connection between the ICA and the ISSA, it's in the original BBC website article and, there's posters and media which were produced advertising the ICA and ISSA together.

    I have a feeling although this hasn't been confirmed, that the ISSA and ICA are or have been circle-jerking in an effort to cross-pollinate qualifications.

    For example..

    I go to the someone I know and get a qualification with the intention of using that qualification as a means of legitimising my otherwise illegitimate and untested knowledge and skills.

    Like going to a circle-jerking Krotty 10th dan O'sensei Dai-soke [whatever] and getting a 10th dan black belt in my own, self created BS martial art. I can then, to the untrained or unsuspecting, legitimately claim to be a 10th dan. How many times has spencer already claimed to have been honoured by a hall of fame?

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    Not content with being an 8th dan in the martial art of Xa-Ryu.

    Spencer also created Kongo Sento Bujutsu, in which he claimed the Japanese honorific title of Soke.
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    Quite bizarrely, Spencer advertises Xa-ryu on a Children's leisure website as:

    ...It is a combination of traditional Japanese martial arts, Russian Military combat and Israeli Anti-Terrorism combat
    Yes, I'm sure Children need to learn Russian Military combat and the Israeli Anti-Terrorism combat.
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    Nothing seems to have come of my attempt to contact Victory Outreach Manchester via the form on their web page. I found them on Facebook today and have sent them a message. I'll post here if anything interesting comes of it.

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