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    Amazing job running this guy's BS down everyone.
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    That was pretty much it. I can only assume that for whatever reason they decided to distance themselves from the ICA.

    What is interesting is that it appears that with Highfield that you pay a fee to be accredited with them as a training provider and I assume that there is some kind of vetting. I can only assume that either the ICA were never accredited with them in the first place or (possibly due to the Bullshido investigation) they decided that they failed to meet the standard of one of their suppliers.
    http://www.highfieldabc.com/HABC-Fees.aspx

    Highfield's track record of vetting the people they "qualify" has spotty results.....

    SIA licence holders may have to retrain after investigation finds malpractice among trainers

    Publicans and door staff with a Security Industry Authority (SIA) licence may have to retrain after an awarding body has withdrawn more than 1,000 certificates.

    http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/G...among-trainers

    This was just March of this year...Pretty good reason for Highfield to stay mum on the subject.
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    ...and the Highfield link is now gone from the ICA website.

    Which begs the question..where do they get their licensing authority from?

    I am not familiar with British Law, but it appears that some form of gvt approved authority has to give an outfit like this the power to issue licenses.
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    Im having a hard time sorting out the players in this one, the governing/licensing bodies the Brits use have my head spinning a bit, but it involves the ICA:

    http://www.closeprotectionworld.com/...-alliance.html
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    Im having a hard time sorting out the players in this one, the governing/licensing bodies the Brits use have my head spinning a bit, but it involves the ICA:

    http://www.closeprotectionworld.com/...-alliance.html
    I read through that one yesterday and come to the same conclusion. I'm not 100% sure that the poster who turns up to slate the International Star Security Alliance and sing the praises of the ICA is a plant/sockpuppet but they're panning the ISSA for the same things that we are looking into the ICA for.
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    ...and the Highfield link is now gone from the ICA website.

    Which begs the question..where do they get their licensing authority from?
    Thats the kick mate. There IS NO licensing authority in British Law or Government Office to learn/teach/practice CQB/CQC skills as offered by the ICA.

    To claim that there needs to be a specific authority such as the ICA is nothing more than a money making scam on their part.
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    Here is what the professionals think of the Security Industry United (SIU), another logo Richard Spencer is using to try and legitimize his business with.

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    He should change his url to fail&desperation. com
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    International Combat Authority

    Something else I have just noticed that strikes me as a discrepancy in the ICA.

    From the ICA LinkedIn page they claim that they are a non-profit organisation which was founded in 2005.

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    However, I checked both Spencers companies listed on the ICA website against the Companies House on line checker (for those of you outside the UK - all UK limited Companies have to be registered with Companies house which is the UK company licensing authority).

    Most interesting. It appears that that both his companies were formed in Sept/Oct 2012 not 2005 as the LinkedIn page suggests.

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    Furthermore, the fact that he has limited companies means that he cannot be a not for profit organisation.

    They also claim to have between 200-500 hundred employees. For a new start up company I find that difficult to believe. This would also have tax/national insurance implications. However, I'll leave tax investigations to HMRC (UK tax authority).

    More lies and deception
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    I'll be speaking with HMRC today at some point just to direct them at the information.

    I doubt there's much they can physically (or want to do) providing Spencer's company is actually complying with UK tax laws (irrespective of how much of a deception Spencer tries) with the actual number of "employees" he claims he has on other websites.
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    HMRC informed via their website form submission service.

    Full details of our concerns and information which the HMRC may or may not be interested in have been sent today.
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