5/05/2013 6:51am, #31
David Levicki would've won UFC 2 if it was life-or-death. He could've just used the neck breaking technique he learned in the Special Forces and kill everyone in the tournament, Royce Gracie included. Let's see how Gracie jiu-jitsu teaches you to handle attacks to the neck.
I'm tired of how the Gracie mafia isn't willing to fight any of the good PKers*. Emin Bozetepe offered to fight the Gracies, but they've chosen to run away and evade the confrontation. All they did in response to Bozetepe's challenge was offer him a chance to fight Royce in UFC 5. BOZETEPE HAS SPECIFICALLY STATED IN THE PAST THAT HE IS NOT WILLING TO FIGHT IN THAT VENUE. IF THE GRACIES REALLY WANTED TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE, THEN WHY DID THEY ONLY OFFER TO FIGHT HIM IN AN ARENA IN WHICH HE DOES NOT WANT TO STEP INTO. Bozetepe has nothing to prove by fighting on TV. Fighting on television is something only people with egos need to do.
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5/05/2013 7:01am, #32
5/05/2013 7:35am, #33
5/05/2013 9:40am, #34
5/05/2013 11:46am, #35
5/05/2013 12:22pm, #36
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The irony of this thread is that nobody is discounting the boxer's skillset the way Atomic Poet is with his "derr herr, this blue belt had no business losing to this world class boxer" nonsense.
We're supposed to be the MMA nutriders, right? But I would never make such a silly assumption.
5/05/2013 12:30pm, #37
5/05/2013 2:18pm, #38
5/05/2013 2:47pm, #39
Yes, there are indeed safety parameters in "the street": "the law".
The law is what (usually) prevents two grown men from murdering each other in "da street", much like the MMA ruleset prevents two grown men from murdering each other in the ring.
But, "the law" is not a tangible thing. It's not "real". Neither is the MMA ruleset. So there are of course law/rule breakers in both MMA and "da street".
When they decide to break that rule, yep anything goes. In the ring, it can get you disqualified. In "the street" in New Jersey, it can be 30 days to 10 years in a state prison. So you tell me just how much better learning to "street fight" without rules versus MMA and other arts which teach both aggression as well as self control.
A skilled judoka could easily kill a man in "the street" by throwing his head into the curb with no other training whatsoever. So, randori is a fine "recreation" of "da street" as well, where one good throw can mean victory.
And what makes you think an MMA fighter or judoka or boxer or even Chunner (lord have mercy) couldn't put their knee through your spine in a street fight when the ref and physical ring are not there? Is that something that requires special training or something?
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5/05/2013 3:55pm, #40
Why the Hell don't the Gracies invite Holyfield to the UFC? They're obviously making millions from pay-per-views buys, instructional video cassettes, and t-shirt sales. If they wanted, they could bring in someone much better than that bum Jimmerson. I guess after Gerard Gordeau gave him all that trouble in the finals of the first UFC (It took Gracie almost a minute to take him down), the Gracie mafia became leery of bringing in someone who can really hit. Let's see Royce try to fight Bert Cooper, Razor Ruddock, or Michael Bentt. Good luck trying to Gracie Tackle someone who can stop you with one punch. Maybe Bentt can enter the next tournament and throw the UFC belt in the pile with his WBO belt and complete his collection of worthless titles.