5/09/2013 7:30pm, #271
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Also, I hasten to add, that you have made spelling mistakes too, but you haven't been hounded with insults for page after page of this discussion. While he clearly disagrees with your opinions goodlun hasn't actually insulted you, so it actually comes off as a weak attempt at being a bully.
Meanwhile, I've been told I'm full of ****, basically been told I don't know anything about fighting when I made one positive comment about my experiences with Wing Chun trapping, and basically been told I don't know anything about self-defense, MMA, BJJ, or just fighting in general by most of the posters here. Thumbs down everywhere.
So, yeah, I'm the passive-aggressive one.
I don't mean that as a smear on your character - bullshido is kind of like a bloke's locker room - and insult slinging and a challenging atmosphere are part of the package. For some people this is unpleasant or stressful, but it's not going to change and so finding a community more suited to them is probably more productive than engaging in drawn-out arguments that aren't functionally going to change anything.
I've already explained this. Would you like me to repeat myself?
5/09/2013 7:35pm, #272
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Well MMA is a sport but imo it is very realistic as it offers both striking and ground game
Things that can happen in a street fight
Tho i'm going to agree that its better to train at one thing first
5/09/2013 8:01pm, #273
This does not apply to the mount position however.
5/09/2013 8:12pm, #274
5/09/2013 8:19pm, #275
Point of Order: All of my headbutting would be from inside guard when on top. I might CONTEMPLATE a headbutt from side control since it seems like the target area would line up, but I've never actually practiced that, whereas I have practiced headbutting to the solar plexus from top of guard.
I would not headbutt from mount because I don't like how I would have to move to acquire the proper angle.
Other people might or might not be able to use the headbutt successfully from those positions, and I can see advantages in being able to use both hands to control your opponent and still land a good solid blow if you train to use it and can apply it.
I've never put headbutts in the same category as eye gouging and biting and ****. A headbutt is a pretty powerful blow and if it's something you manage to be able to train in an alive manner and get good at then I bet you can end the **** out of some fights with it.
What I am skeptical of is that ANYONE in this thread is training headbutts in an alive manner.
That's a decent mix of training and quite a workload. In which class do you guys use headbutts in sparring?
Last edited by Kintanon; 5/09/2013 8:22pm at . Reason: Found the post about where he trains
5/09/2013 8:49pm, #276
Knee on belly is a different matter though. All I need is a little space to move my hips away from them and it's there. To be sure, I have never successfully used this against a black belt, and only a few times with browns.
I do use it to threaten the armbar and then escape back to guard against higher ranks though. In fact, the reason Goodlun's post reminded me of it is because I used it twice today to reguard against a black belt's KOB.
5/09/2013 10:06pm, #277
One of the rules that does still stand here is no bitching about rep..
Thumbs up, thumbs down, whatever. It's only a vehicle for posters to show approval or disapproval of a comment, without having to post about it. It does not define a poster. I have tons of rep, and I'm a fucking idiot.
What isn't allowed, is complaining about it.
Imagine YMAS as a bar. If the equivalent of someone nodding or shaking their head while you speak is enough to set you off, then you should restrict your int3rnets, especially on Bullshido.
If you haven't, make an intro thread in newbietown, where only a single poster is allowed to give you **** (Omega the Merciless).
Many martial arts websites use tags and faux titles for posting quality feedback and stuff, not here. If you see a military, law enforcement, BJJ Brown Belt, or whatever tag above someone's posts, know that they've actually submitted concrete proof of those credentials, to attain them (a couple are jokes, but they're self evident).
If you make assertions, be prepared to back them up with credible referencing/substantiation, or just brace yourself for the shitstorm, either way....just don't cry about it.
5/09/2013 10:15pm, #278
5/09/2013 11:08pm, #279
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I would only use a headbutt while standing and when it's completely unexpected. Like during the "come at me bro" moment. Or during a boxing match.
5/10/2013 2:08am, #280
Here is the thing though, to make good use of that headbutt it sounds like you have to be able to maintain good wrist control of the guy on bottom. As if I didn't already know your a significantly better grappler than me the fact that you have the confidence that you will win and maintain that grip fight shows it.
I personally would be very would be leary to get caught off posture and my head lying on someone chest.
Mind you I do see the value in keeping the hands trapped and pounding away with the head. However I suspect to do it comfortably you're going to have to a very solid base in grappling.
My strategy if I ended up in top guard on "the street" would 1st be happy that I managed to get to that position from some god awful one no doubt.
2nd to break the guard disengage and run the **** away.
As far as having trained alive with headbuts I have done some, however it has been a long while. The 1st BJJ gym I went to we would occasionally focus on "dirty" grappling more so that we learn how to defend against it.