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    Quote Originally Posted by SmH View Post
    It does...technically. A 17 year old boy who gets ***** fot the first time in his live won't be Don Juan, but being kind of prepared to they physics of the situation by discovering internetporn and starting to masturbate at an age as early as 13 (which equals physical conditioning in the fighting analogy) will give him a slight advantage over a boy who didn't ever jerk off. This slight advantage won't be much from the view of a pornstar, but it might make the difference between the girl going for a round two or never touching him again. Get my point?
    I can't tell if this is idiocy or satire, which I believe makes it high-level satire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    Congratulations! You have won the "Most off-topic/worthless post" prize of the day!

    The quoted post above is proof that BS attracts members who will argue or dispute anything, and I mean anything.

    Sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes it's not.

    I'm not trying to pick on you SmH . . . wait a minute, this is BS, yes I am.
    You seem to assume iwas actually being serious while discussing the masturbation habits of 13 year olds. I wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    ...chain punches...can unbalance or stun an opponent.
    Yeah, but then the rest of the nest emerges, crawls all over you and bites you.
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    This is just a first impression (and correct me if I'm wrong) but... most of you guys aren't overly-impressed with Wing Chun, right? :P

    I admit - I've never tested Wing Chun against another martial art in sparring, though I'd be happy to try. I've no problem with people poking holes in my conceptions with their fists as well as with their keyboards. If what I've been training is essentially crap self defence, I'd rather find out sooner than later.

    I have actually trained Wing Chun fairly seriously, and did pick it up pretty quickly. Yes, I've heard many times that ground-fighting disciplines like BJJ are much faster and easier in learning to apply some really effective 'bread and butter' moves; I don't dispute this. I'd like to try BJJ too someday.

    I agree there's a big difference between applying a series of chain punches effectively in a real fight and drilling them in repetitive routines. I've had taster sessions at some sloppy Wing Chun schools, all lackadaisical repetitions of forms and drills, completely neglecting any kind of physical conditioning or improvised sparring.

    Some things I can say for sure: if you train Wing Chun properly, you can hit fast and surprisingly hard with chain punches, I've had this demonstrated on me and found out myself (by accident). My Sifu asked me to hold two sparring pads against my chest, one on top of the other. He then punched the pads from roughly 3 inches away. It really hurt (and I suspect he wasn't really trying). Admittedly, my Sifu was extremely fit and strong, and had trained for years. I found out I myself could hit effectively with chain punches when, one day, my drilling partner had a brain-fart and paused instead of blocked. I hit him with my first punch then managed to pull the rest... he staggered, his eyes watered and blood ran from his nose. This suggests to me that I was doing something right?

    I moved house fairly recently and there are no Wing Chun schools in my area, but there's a boxing gym, so I'll probably join that and get into boxing again. I'll also try to find a reasonably-skilled boxer who's happy to spar their boxing vs my Wing Chun, and see how it goes. If I find a sparring partner, and they expose my training as crap, I'll crawl back here on all fours and beg forgiveness, particularly from those of you who have anger management problems ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    I'll also try to find a reasonably-skilled boxer who's happy to spar their boxing vs my Wing Chun, and see how it goes. If I find a sparring partner, and they expose my training as crap, I'll crawl back here on all fours and beg forgiveness, particularly from those of you who have anger management problems ;-)
    Even without the whole prodigal son routine, pitting your _ing _un against a boxer will garner you some respect around here. Being disillusioned is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    This is just a first impression (and correct me if I'm wrong) but... most of you guys aren't overly-impressed with Wing Chun, right? :P
    A better question is why are you so impressed.

    This is FAKE WRESTLING and it's more impressive than most Wing Chun.

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    I am really having a hard time reconciling these two statements. In my mind they are mutually exclusive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    I admit - I've never tested Wing Chun against another martial art in sparring...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    I have actually trained Wing Chun fairly seriously, and did pick it up pretty quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    one day, my drilling partner had a brain-fart and paused instead of blocked. I hit him with my first punch then managed to pull the rest... he staggered, his eyes watered and blood ran from his nose. This suggests to me that I was doing something right?
    Well. You did hit someone on the nose when he wasn't paying attention. Good job?
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    Me too Southpaw. It's a good thing that Our Chun friend is moving on to boxing for awhile. Learning a new sport will round him out a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    This is just a first impression (and correct me if I'm wrong) but... most of you guys aren't overly-impressed with Wing Chun, right? :P
    lol what gave it away?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    I admit - I've never tested Wing Chun against another martial art in sparring, though I'd be happy to try. I've no problem with people poking holes in my conceptions with their fists as well as with their keyboards. If what I've been training is essentially crap self defence, I'd rather find out sooner than later.
    Most excellent. It is good to pressure test your MA against other styles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    Yes, I've heard many times that ground-fighting disciplines like BJJ are much faster and easier in learning to apply some really effective 'bread and butter' moves; I don't dispute this. I'd like to try BJJ too someday.
    If BJJ isn't readily available other things to try include Wrestling, Judo, SAMBO, anything that includes ground fighting and competition. At anyone point instead of making it one day go out and do it today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    I agree there's a big difference between applying a series of chain punches effectively in a real fight and drilling them in repetitive routines.
    Until you start drilling and sparring with aliveness you will have no clue how well they actually work in a "real" fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    Some things I can say for sure: if you train Wing Chun properly, you can hit fast and surprisingly hard with chain punches
    Really? Cause it has proven to fail almost always when put to the test against an equally talented striker who has been training for the same amount of time from another style.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    I moved house fairly recently and there are no Wing Chun schools in my area, but there's a boxing gym, so I'll probably join that and get into boxing again.
    Most excellent if you really are interested in becoming a better striker this arrangement will make you much happier in the end. That is if you can let your ego take the bruises its about to get.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dreykil View Post
    I'll crawl back here on all fours and beg forgiveness, particularly from those of you who have anger management problems ;-)
    You won't be the 1st or the last person to do this. Truth is if you manage to see the light after experience aliveness then you will be most welcome here.


    Well once you take a class on logic and rhetoric as well.

    But seriously go try out the boxing gym go find a judo/bjj school and report back after doing it for a couple of weeks.
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