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  1. BoonDog is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homernoid View Post
    I am irritated about efforts of cutting free speech, when you don#t like the arguments of the other side.
    Please show where I stated Sokara cannot have an opinion. All I stated was to use evidence to support the claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemorrhoid
    Using constitutional rights immediately, leads towards human rights eventually.
    My view on the US Constitution has no bearing on what Calvin's teaching are or on Christian stances on gay marriage are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoonDog View Post
    Understandable. I am just trying to get Sokara to actually cite his justification for his beliefs. So far it has been "my opinion is..." Look at my location. My state, last election, just passed a law allowing for gay marriage. I heard a lot from Christians on why they were opposed to homosexual unions. Almost every one of them cited Genesis 3 where, in their view, God ordained marriage as an institution between one man and one woman. I can cite many teachers from the early church onward who also hold this view. I am trying to see where Sokara cites the view he/she espoused.
    Since religion leads to misunderstandings, weird comments about voting, location and legalities let me clarify my comment.

    I despise it because religion is SO WIDE OPEN for interpretation, it is an endeavor in futility to expect a logical conclusion. It has nothing to do with who is right, wrong or misreading Calvin.

    You can see what I mean now, as I just started reading the comments while I crafted this response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    I despise it because religion is SO WIDE OPEN for interpretation, it is an endeavor in futility to expect a logical conclusion. It has nothing to do with who is right, wrong or misreading Calvin..
    But that is just your interpretation :)

    I see where you are coming from. Honestly, I would not mind meeting one day with you, Omega, and Der and discussing Religion.
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    It'd be interesting to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoonDog View Post
    Please show where I stated Sokara cannot have an opinion. All I stated was to use evidence to support the claim.
    I read this here:
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    You can have your views and even your understanding of Scripture. Just as we do not like posters who comment on martial arts without an understanding of them, please do not post on a subject without at least a little more scholarly work on your part.
    Because, that is, IMO the point of free speech - unreasonable applications are certainly part of it. Every bubble so to speak.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoonDog View Post
    My view on the US Constitution has no bearing on what Calvin's teaching are or on Christian stances on gay marriage are.
    I thout Sorekara brought this kind of argument up. This is, where his argument is heading, as far I can see.
    So no matter at all here.
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    I'm Taoist and I agree with gay marriage. Not all religions bad guys.
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    Use some logic please
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    Not all religions bad guys.
    Who said they were? I'd argue NO religions are bad, crappy people twist religions into evil.
    Quote Originally Posted by Capn_my_Capn View Post
    Use some logic please
    We have, let us know when you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn_my_Capn View Post
    Use some logic please
    You have posted 2 sentences in a thread and none of them referenced anything that anyone said, and argued against a point that nobody made. So logic dictates that you probably didn't read the thread.

    Did I do it right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    You have posted 2 sentences in a thread and none of them referenced anything that anyone said, and argued against a point that nobody made. So logic dictates that you probably didn't read the thread.

    Did I do it right?
    Well there was early mentioned that the roots of this has historical roots inside of ancient western civilisation and by virtue they are talking about a westernised religion.
    Meaning not only has he not read the thread his point has already been stated albeit in an implicit manner.

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