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  1. gregaquaman is offline
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    Allright that is officially not me doing that

    Allright that is officially not me doing that
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     Style: Itinerant Wanderer

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    There are a lot of good points made in this thread- pinning is dead sexy. And it's useful. But the one big tipping point for me that is often, the pin is a submission as well. Aside from the usefulness of crushing the wind out of some poor bastard with kesa gatame (eri gatame) and its kin, those are also nifty submissions.

    You'll find that in the base position, all those basics- getting your head down, spreading your legs, "walking" it in- they all set up a nasty neck crank. Switching your position to a belly-down position and doing the same "walking" around also adds a ton of pressure to the crank.

    Someone already mentioned that pinning should be active, not passive. That's exactly the right idea.
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    Shoulders: force down or force up? You have options.



    Diaphragm compression :) ouch
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    Which pins would be useful in mma? As a wrestler, I know a lot of pins. Too many in fact. But not all pins seem like they'd be useful outside of wrestling.

    A very small list off the top of my head:
    Half-Nelson series
    Cradles series
    Guillotine series
    Tilt series
    Armbar series
    Chickenwing series
    Leg Ride series
    Head and Arm series
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    Shoulders: force down or force up? You have options.



    Diaphragm compression :) ouch
    I had a sensei who was a master of that sort of stuff...he had a crushing sub from any judo osaekomi.

    Unfortunately I never really mastered any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles View Post
    Which pins would be useful in mma? As a wrestler, I know a lot of pins. Too many in fact. But not all pins seem like they'd be useful outside of wrestling.

    A very small list off the top of my head:
    Half-Nelson series
    Cradles series
    Guillotine series
    Tilt series
    Armbar series
    Chickenwing series
    Leg Ride series
    Head and Arm series
    Basic to any sort of effective pinning is the ability to use/distribute your weight effectively, regardless of the application (mma, wrestling, judo, BJJ, etc.).

    It looks to me like your list is a list of entries to pins (attacks against an opponent in a particular position) rather than pins themselves, which is a good way to look at them. In wrestling, like in Judo, you are trying to turn your opponent onto his back from various defensive postures (typically turtle or flat out in Judo, ref's position or flat out in wrestling (or back exposure points in Free-Style, right? ).

    The basic pins taught in Judo or BJJ or wrestling would suffice, and then the ability to switch positions without losing control between them, and then to add in subs from each position either straight up or more normally as a reaction to an opening created by your opponent trying to escape. Then there would be strikes from control positions (pins), and defending strikes, and escapes.

    Get the basic pins down pat though, or you won't be able to control your opponent no matter what you want to do to him.
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     Style: MT/Ex-Judo NO SPRAWL?!

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    I think it's a great way to stop people from getting seriously hurt in a 1v1 situation.

    I mean if you can stop the other guy from hurting you until authority arrives or he spazzes out, it's your win IMHO.

    To quote some of the replies :

    "Jackson DivilBiss7 months ago

    It's less violent, and therefor more demeaning. If you don't strike him, then he loses all of his reasons for fighting back. The guy just sits there, restraining him and patiently asking if he's done; that makes it very hard to fight back."

    "madmike15 months ago

    Less legal rectification, and it does not escalate the fight, in an interview the guy even said if he got punched there was no way he was going to clam down and would of fought for his life...Probably leading him to have a broken limb."

    'murica, btw.

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