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    I can only reply with a statement of bullshit. Boxing is very complex in and of itself. Anyone schooled in the art knows that there are so many subtleties to boxing. Just look at Floyd Mayweather and other technicians of the game. If you can't see what they do, you don't appreciate the game/art.

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    Some will decry this, but from a semantics standpoint I would say that boxing is simple, in the sense that on the MA scale it's simpler than many other arts (fewer rules, fewer techniques to learn).

    Simple does not equal Easy
    Simple does not equal Ineffective
    Simple does not equal Doesn't Require Skill
    Simple does not equal Not Difficult to Perform
    Simple equals Not Difficult to Comprehend

    Darts and bowling are simple too...doesn't mean a 9-dart finish or 300 game happen all the time.

    Anyone who thinks the reverse of my list either has no idea, or is insecure about how their MA stacks up, hence the derision.

    Though judojeff, I'm not sure why you care?

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    We will disagree on the rules thing. Boxing rules can be just as over complicated as any MA.

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    Boxing is simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander View Post
    Boxing is simple.
    Deceptively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Honestly? You took that post out of context. The OP of that thread, where you took this quote, implied that adding throws from judo to Karate would be easy. IMO, honest_truth is saying yeah punching is easy, but everything else like this:
    Footwork
    Timing
    Bobbing and Weaving
    Ring Generalship
    Cardio
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    Mindset
    Is what makes punching the art of boxing and it isn't simple. He wrote that poorly especially when the context is missing.
    Yes I did, I should have added more context in my post, my bad.

    Calling boxing simple seems similar to a sambo practicioner calling judo simple since we dont attack legs (anymore). While it would be right in that we dont grab legs, at least competitivly speaking, it doesn't make judo simple.

    And I care more out of curiosity then anything, I enjoy watching boxing and some of my training partners box so I figured I would ask the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander View Post
    Boxing is simple.
    Wow, I thought I was going to be the first to say it. There are a lot of simple things on this planet. It's usually the simple things that end up being the most complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    Wow, I thought I was going to be the first to say it. There are a lot of simple things on this planet. It's usually the simple things that end up being the most complex.
    I only speak to spread your gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judojeff View Post
    Yes I did, I should have added more context in my post, my bad.

    Calling boxing simple seems similar to a sambo practicioner calling judo simple since we dont attack legs (anymore). While it would be right in that we dont grab legs, at least competitivly speaking, it doesn't make judo simple.

    And I care more out of curiosity then anything, I enjoy watching boxing and some of my training partners box so I figured I would ask the question.

    Judo IS pretty simple. Most of the throws follow a few core mechanics and are just variations on those core mechanics. Same with groundwork, really. Its the infinite possibilities that come with implementing technique with timing and range and resistance from another practitioner that makes it difficult. I mean, give me someone holding still and not resisting and I can toss them with almost any throw in the book.

    Just like boxing isn't just throwing punches, Judo isn't just throwing (and that is true for every other decent art).

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    Being simple wouldn't have a negative connotation if people didn't brag about the complexity of their art like its a good thing.

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