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    Yeah, how would Fallon fair in the same weight class in the men's competition?

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    She would most likely get destroyed. She would be facing stronger faster more aggressive opponents. Most likey as a result in the different levels of testorone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    She would most likely get destroyed. She would be facing stronger faster more aggressive opponents. Most likey as a result in the different levels of testorone.
    And you saw no difference in muscle mass between the two during the fight? Fallon had many years to put on muscle mass. How many years of female hormones, I don't know, but muscle doesn't drop off overnight, especially if a person is consistent with their exercise regimen.

    We can agree to disagree.
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    I'm far from an expert on the medical role of hormones in TG issues, but I was just thinking:

    If a guy want's a physical advantage he takes steroids to gain mass/strength/etc.

    If this guy/girl reduced the amount of estrogen he/she was taking would that allow him/her to gain mass? Would he/she able to reap a physical benefit simply by NOT taking a medication?
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    So, Fox got KTFO in her last fight. How does that affect everyone's feelings about her?
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    So, Fox got KTFO in her last fight. How does that affect everyone's feelings about her?
    I still think he's gross.
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    Thanks for the heads-up, Bob. I watched the gifs and am looking for video. The fight appears from the gifs to feature some solid back-and-forth in the striking, but Fallon got the messy end of the stick in the grappling game.

    I have some concerns about transgender fighters in MMA, but the hateful, ignorant commentary here on Bullshido has made me more pro-Fallon.
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    Watched the fight. Fallon's wrestling was good but Evans-Smith's was better. Fallon showed strong basic striking and a well-conditioned kick catch. She looked strong on offense and seemed to either lose steam or lack game when on the defensive. Evans-Smith demonstrated dynamic grappling, excellent takedowns, good cardio, and solid striking in the ground game.

    Does this fight say anything about policy re: trans fighters in MMA? No, not really. It was just a good fight: a great match-up and a great display of athleticism by both fighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1point2 View Post
    Watched the fight. Fallon's wrestling was good but Evans-Smith's was better. Fallon showed strong basic striking and a well-conditioned kick catch. She looked strong on offense and seemed to either lose steam or lack game when on the defensive. Evans-Smith demonstrated dynamic grappling, excellent takedowns, good cardio, and solid striking in the ground game.

    Does this fight say anything about policy re: trans fighters in MMA? No, not really. It was just a good fight: a great match-up and a great display of athleticism by both fighters.
    It is just one fight, but I suppose folks could look at this as an indication that Fox doesn't have an overwhelming physical advantage...sounds like it was a good fight. I didn't hear any of the pre-fight hype/build-up...how tough was this opponent supposed to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keslet View Post
    It is just one fight, but I suppose folks could look at this as an indication that Fox doesn't have an overwhelming physical advantage...sounds like it was a good fight. I didn't hear any of the pre-fight hype/build-up...how tough was this opponent supposed to be?
    It has been described as an "upset" in post-fight analysis but I wasn't reading nor can I find pre-fight predictions. Evans-Smith has a (now) 2-0 pro record and a 5-4 ammy record.

    To me, in this fight, Fallon appeared to be the slightly stronger and somewhat more explosive fighter, but also seemed to lack conditioning. One fighter being stronger than the other is, of course, not unusual in any MMA match-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1point2 View Post
    It has been described as an "upset" in post-fight analysis but I wasn't reading nor can I find pre-fight predictions. Evans-Smith has a (now) 2-0 pro record and a 5-4 ammy record.

    To me, in this fight, Fallon appeared to be the slightly stronger and somewhat more explosive fighter, but also seemed to lack conditioning. One fighter being stronger than the other is, of course, not unusual in any MMA match-up.
    5-4 as an amateur and only 2nd pro fight? I wouldn't think this would be a top of the food chain opponent then (could be wrong), and Fox still lost...that does make the argument a bit stronger for Fox to be fighting in that division IMHO...

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