3/26/2013 1:35pm, #41
3/26/2013 1:35pm, #42
3/26/2013 1:35pm, #43
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3/26/2013 1:45pm, #44
Choosing to take arguments to their logical extreme certainly simplifies the discussion.
Do you, Bnet, accept the fact that the Swastika is known as a symbol for hatred? If you say yes, then you can at least understand how humans can come to associate symbols with emotional attachments, among them hate. That doesn't imply that you as a person believe the Swastika is a hate symbol, only that you can understand how it can be seen by the average person as one.
Assuming you accept the fact that a symbol can be seen sacred by some and profane by others, your opinion seems to be to ignore those who find it profane while in pursuit of commercial gain. The only other option, to eliminate all symbols completely.
Does a hate symbol need to be avoided by the general public because it offends some people whose grandparents died? Disturbingly, I find myself asking, "How many grandparents?"
Are we talking Pol Pot/Joseph Stalin numbers, or one church in Idaho? How does that change the answer?
3/26/2013 1:53pm, #45
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I understand exactly why Hayabusa pulled the gi. It's just a piece of cotton they want to make some money with. It's not worth a fight when they can easily create another tacky piece of cotton to sell to dojo gangsters. I get it.
What interests me about the story is that people will actually whine about this bullshit. They know damn well this company isn't trying to **** with anyone or make some political statement. But they have to make sure the whole world knows it hurts their little feelings. They're behaving like bitches.
3/26/2013 2:03pm, #46
3/26/2013 2:12pm, #47
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My take on this entire issue...
1) I get it, people don't like the symbol because of what it represents FOR THEM
2) Somebody is using the gi/logo because of ANOTHER REASON ...
3) People are FORCING OTHERS to change their behavior because they have a certain way of seeing things and somebodies does not coincide with theirs.
As in law, people should consider intent!
I am offended by the fact that they are forcing their views/morals/opinion on others... do I get to make them stop? Don't think so....
Once more, it is all about intent.
If you show the logo because you want to represent JAPAN @ 1944 then I see your point, if not, try to inform but don't force your view on others.
3/26/2013 2:18pm, #48
My argument is not for commercial gain, it's against over-censorship.
3/26/2013 3:38pm, #49
As a middle class white man in a first world country, I'm just going to keep my fucking mouth shut when it comes to whether or not Koreans should be upset by a Japanese symbol.
And as contrary as it is to the entire purpose of not only this website, but Internet forums in general, sometimes it's best to just not have an opinion on things.
Bah, who am I kidding... GSP is a weaboo, it was a stupid gi to begin with, and Japan should be shitting bricks over the combination of China's economic ascendancy and their long cultural memory.
3/26/2013 7:14pm, #50
"The only important elements in any society
are the artistic and the criminal,
because they alone, by questioning the society's values,
can force it to change."-Samuel R. Delany
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It seems that the only people who support anarchy are faggots, who want their pathetic immoral lifestyle accepted by the mainstream society. It wont be so they try to create their own.-Oldman34, friend to all children