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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If only I had the cash, I could enroll in either a better gym or one that has classes more tuned to my schedule or just an additional gym. I think there are 6 schools in 10 min. driving distance!
    Man I miss having the time/cash to just fucking roll all day.

    But yeah, rolling for position as a warm-up is a killer, love it. Problem is, can't do in a beginners class (which I guess is another reason for not seeing this thing done that often).

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    Quote Originally Posted by franginho View Post
    Problem is, can't do in a beginners class (which I guess is another reason for not seeing this thing done that often).
    Well see here is the thing I don't believe in "beginners classes" or "advanced classes" you take a brand spanking new guy pair him up with someone that has been there for some time for his first few classes to get the basic concepts down and to get an understanding of the right resistance levels, when to tap, what positions are good. Then its a road to self discovery with bad habits choked out of them.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    That works if you have some 'seasoned' folks and some spazing beginners. If not, you are down to spazing beginners only and then you will be hard pressed to watch over all of them and correct them all the time. (Bad habits or accident in the making, anyone?!)

    Here 'unified' instruction goes a long way. You can check what is going on very easily and the 'bad ones' stand out fairly quick and you can intervene. People can also look and learn.
    In live drills, even if it is position drilling, people will **** up and you as a teacher will be in some trouble to check on all of them and correct when needed. It is just too much going on.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Well I have to admit my lens are colored from living in San Diego County where it seems that a BJJ place is on every corner. So we have plenty of Blue Belts and up around. Even a white belt with a few stripes work for what I am talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    Shrimping is something that lots of people think they've mastered when they haven't. I took a self defense course in college taught by a good judo coach, and he had us shrimping. Man, you shoulda seen it. People Pac-Manning side to side but staying in the same place, moving along by bridging back, all sorts of weird stuff.
    How can you shrimp and stay in the same place?

    Even shrimp--after whom the move is named--don't do this. The whole point is displacement, isn't it?

    Otherwise, what is one doing...'sideways-bridging'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand View Post
    How can you shrimp and stay in the same place?
    You lie on your back, turn to one side, fold in half at the waist, repeat on the other side, and then giggle to your girlfriends about how you could totally beat up a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    You lie on your back, turn to one side, fold in half at the waist, repeat on the other side, and then giggle to your girlfriends about how you could totally beat up a man.
    So "shrimp" is a size thing, is it?

    Do I owe you a small thanks for the explanation?

    Hmm..don't know if I can do a small thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand View Post
    How can you shrimp and stay in the same place?

    Even shrimp--after whom the move is named--don't do this. The whole point is displacement, isn't it?

    Otherwise, what is one doing...'sideways-bridging'?
    Something the BJJ place I trained at clearly did not understand. It's like someone telling you to jump but don't let your feet leave the ground. WTF?
    "We often joke -- and we really wish it were a joke -- that you will only encounter two basic problems with your 'self-defense' training.
    1) That it doesn't work
    2) That it does work"
    -Animal MacYoung

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    This why I like the Judo approach of using shrimping all over creation as a conditioning exercise. You learn to move across the mat or else you get REAL tired. My shrimp is much improved from Judo vs the no gi BJJ place I was before that.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Our class has half an hour of hell conditioning before each class. Plates kettlebells sprints. Outright murder death kill stuff.

    Coincidently their fighters tend to win fights.

    Fighting is physical and the class is not all about you.

    Look being strong isnt cheating. Winning the grapple can be as much about breaking your opponants will as it is about technique.
    Last edited by gregaquaman; 3/21/2013 12:02am at .
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