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    Dr. Latson's method of self defence and the "God-Man" scandal of 1911

    http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/20...andal-of-1911/

    This article has it all; self defense with an umbrella, "mystical psychology" and a bizarre scandal that rocked New York City's high society back in 1911.

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    Dunno what that girl is trying to defend against. . . Wearing a dress like that, she is obviously just asking for it.

    (Any idea what the good doctor might have been basing his system on, other than boxing?)

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    Pretty cool article. And she was good looking, even in that dress!
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    I've ordered a copy of the 1958 book referred to in the article, which apparently hints that the "Latson method" had a jujitsu component. JJ had been introduced to the USA in 1903. The umbrella-fighting content is a bit of a mystery; most likely it was inspired by some of E.W. Barton-Wright's Bartitsu articles reprinted in US newspapers or related to the savate-based cane self defense Professor Louis Tronchet was teaching at the San Francisco Olympic Club in the late 1800s. There's also a record of women's umbrella self defense being taught in Philadelphia in 1908, but we don't know much more about that.

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    Seeing her in the side-on stance, with her arm tucked like it is, my first thought was something based on a system for military saber; though holding the umbrella where she was kind of confused me.

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    The grip position is reminiscent of Irish shillelagh fighting; the idea was to use the section of the weapon projecting below the fist to parry attacks.

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    Do you think that sort of training, or materials referencing it, would have been available to Dr. Latson? I guess it's possible that the grip is coincidental, but it still strikes me as a little counter-intuitive. . .

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    Hard to say. The *idea* of the shillelagh fighting grip was pretty well known during the early 1900s, having been described in both British and American newspaper articles and a couple of late 19th century self defense books written by English authors. The most likely direct source would be this 1905 newspaper article: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jimmy_f...an/wittman.htm .

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    Quote Originally Posted by EX-CHIEF OF POLICE WITTMAN
    "It is strange how few men who carry a cane are held up."
    That made me smile.

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    When I read articles like that, my brains starts narrating the tale like an old British guy on old timey radio.

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