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  1. Dr. Fagbot Q. MacGillicuddy, PhD is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost View Post
    Hell, banana-water... someone get on that.
    I've got some "banana water" you can "sample." If you "know" what I "mean."
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    FORM AN ACROBATIC BRIDGE ACROSS OMEGA'S GOOCH
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRuss View Post
    Also, I learned the hard way that the worst thing to do for a seized calf is to try to stretch it out by putting weight on it. Ouch.
    Specifically TheRuss' weight or just a normal person's weight?

    Seriously HTFU already. The muscle cramp has to be stretched out to lengthen the muscle out. Yes it hurts for a couple of seconds.

    PHROST - calf cramps, shove the ball of the foot of the affected leg against the nearest wall and push against the direction of the cramp. Also relax, breathe normally after the cramp dissipates or I find it goes again for another round (especially toe cramps).

    If you're upright (cramped foot at the back, I prefer to push against the ball of the foot rather than stand flat footed):

    If you have friends:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Fagbot Q. MacGillicuddy, PhD View Post
    I've got some "banana water" you can "sample." If you "know" what I "mean."
    This is the technique forum youngster. Do not make me stick my e-foot in your ass because you can't remember to behave accordingly when you're in here.
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    Damnit...
    Exercise associated muscle cramps can and do often occur in a state of adequate hydration and electrolyte balance.
    Think writer's cramp, duh.
    So yes, maybe you did overdo it.
    (You still need to htfu.)


    Scientific evidence in support of the “electrolyte depletion” and “dehydration” hypotheses for the aetiology of EAMC comes mainly from anecdotal clinical observations, case series totalling 18 cases, and one small (n = 10) case–control study. Results from four prospective cohort studies do not support these hypotheses. In addition, the “electrolyte depletion” and “dehydration” hypotheses do not offer plausible pathophysiological mechanisms with supporting scientific evidence that could adequately explain the clinical presentation and management of EAMC. Scientific evidence for the “altered neuromuscular control” hypothesis is based on evidence from research studies in human models of muscle cramping, epidemiological studies in cramping athletes, and animal experimental data. Whilst it is clear that further evidence to support the “altered neuromuscular control” hypothesis is also required, research data are accumulating that support this as the principal pathophysiological mechanism for the aetiology of EAMC.
    http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/43/6/401.short

    or here:

    69% of the subjects experienced EAMCs when they were hydrated and supplemented with electrolytes.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1150229/

    or here:
    Serum electrolyte concentrations and hydration status are not associated with exercise associated muscle cramping (EAMC) in distance runners
    http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/38/4/488.abstract

    or here, from way back in 1986:
    The results suggest that exercise‐induced muscle cramp may not be associated with gross disturbances of fluid and electrolyte balance.
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...40418608732095


    So on top of that i have no idea how so many of you are so sure you know what's going on in Phrost's bloodstream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChenPengFi View Post
    Damnit...
    Exercise associated muscle cramps can and do often occur in a state of adequate hydration and electrolyte balance.
    Think writer's cramp, duh.
    So yes, maybe you did overdo it.
    (You still need to htfu.)



    http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/43/6/401.short

    or here:


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1150229/

    or here:

    http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/38/4/488.abstract

    or here, from way back in 1986:

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...40418608732095


    So on top of that i have no idea how so many of you are so sure you know what's going on in Phrost's bloodstream.
    Nevertheless, gulping down EmergenC electrolite (or EmergenC vit C for that matter) stops my night leg cramps quickly, as does a 1/2 t salt washed down with water, the fizzy powder stuff feels way more healthy.
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    What's supps are you taking? That matters...

    Are you hydrating with water and eating your fuckin banannas for potassium to prevent cramping -- also temps in the room -- if it's hot as **** -- you can't go balls to the wall like you would in an average temp setting.
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    I'd only taken caffeine, in the form of coffee that day.

    I think. Maybe a small amount of creatine mixed with protein powder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminated View Post
    You should avoid caffeine at all costs - takes it's toll on the ol' ticker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Specifically TheRuss' weight or just a normal person's weight?

    Seriously HTFU already. The muscle cramp has to be stretched out to lengthen the muscle out. Yes it hurts for a couple of seconds.
    A couple of seconds?

    In a couple of seconds, I went from "my calf is cramping" to "I pulled my fucking calf, this blows".

    Being impatient is stupid.
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