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    Bullshido gets quoted about Children's MMA



    Two people, battling it out in a 28-foot cage, punching and kicking as screaming fans cheer them on. No, it’s not an Ultimate Fighting Championship match, it’s the increasingly popular sport for kids—mixed martial arts cage fighting.

    All across the country, 3.2 million boys and girls age 6 to 13 are participating in a surprising sport that’s picking up steam, mixed martial arts, or Pankration. Fueled by the popularity of Ultimate Fighting Championships (UFC), mixed martial arts for children has actually been in existence for roughly 11 years, though it recently gained media attention when a mother posted her child’s match on YouTube.

    At first glance, the sport seems brutal and barbaric in nature, but parents contend that like karate, mixed martial arts provide their children with important lessons in discipline and self-control. However, some MMA instructors disagree, like Valhala ETC Head Instructor Michael MacDonald.
    “Most people find it ironic that while I support children learning MMA, I do not recommend that children actually participate in MMA events,” MacDonald tells MommyNoire.

    “I have always thought it would be better for kids to begin their training in traditional martial arts like tae kwon do, judo, jiu-jitsu, or an art like that,” adds MMA Zone owner Tony Hackerott. “The traditional arts focus heavily on discipline and respect, which is lacking in a lot of MMA training.”

    Although they say that MMA may not be suitable for children, both MacDonald and Hackerott feel that the sport is getting a bad rap.
    “Children learning MMA is no more dangerous than bike riding, gymnastics, wrestling, tae kwon do, football, or soccer,” says MacDonald, who claims that there are fewer injuries to children who participate in mixed martial arts activities than other, more traditional youth sports, an argument with which biomedical engineer Geoffrey Thor Desmoulin disagrees.

    The United States Fight League’s rules prohibit children from striking one another in the head, but as a specialist in human trauma, Desmoulin warns that there is still a great risk for kids to suffer concussions and other injuries.
    “The brain has a similar consistency as tofu,” Desmoulin explains, “and when you visualize that tofu being stored inside a rigid container made with undulations and ridges, it becomes easier to understand just how easily traumatic brain injury and concussion can occur.”

    How do you determine if mixed martial arts is appropriate for your child?

    “My advice to most parents is quite simple,” says MacDonald. “Make sure you make a decision out of education, not ignorance.”
    MacDonald and other instructors encourage parents to talk to others who have children participating in the activity, and observe a few classes, being sure to notice how the instructor conducts the sessions. Is there order or is there chaos? And regardless of which style your child studies, the emphasis should be on character development, not fighting.

    “Even as a coach I find myself squeamish watching children go at each other so intently,” MacDonald admits, “but the smiles, bonding, and character development that comes out [of] such an activity always wins me over.”
    Would you let your son or daughter participate in mixed martial arts cage fighting?

    Read more at
    http://mommynoire.com/20713/cage-fighting-kids-brutal-sport-or-a-lesson-in-discipline/#CXdZQQ7iIER6T88y.99
    My quotes were slightly taken out of context but here you go.

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    I'm really starting to not like this whole "concussions bad...injuries bad...activities bad" attitude in the "biomedical engineering" world.

    NO ****. Meteors can fall on your fucking head, too. Martial art can be an enjoyable, fruitful activity before that happens.

    Agree children should not take part in real MMA style events. But what's the harm in training offensive/defensive skills Nature intended you?

    Sure you can get a concussion in boxing or judo or BJJ, but Christ, how many concussions has ukemi prevented?
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    Could somebody please get some stats on Cheerleading vs. MMA in terms of injuries. Same for Football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Sure you can get a concussion in boxing or judo or BJJ, but Christ, how many concussions has ukemi prevented?
    I've sustained more serious injuries (broken bones / concussions) from riding bikes, skateboards and motorcycles than I ever have from martial arts.
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    "Cheerleading injuries" are really gymnastics injuries. Gymnastics is a real blood sport.

    Time to get rid of the balance beam, because you might fall off it and hit your fucking head.

    Or, you can do the same thing slipping on some ice.

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    I received three severe concussions at high school, not one of them playing sport. We should ban metal poles as supporting structures, bags as people can trip on them and put safety wire around anywhere with a ledge of over a metre. All children should be forced to wear stack hats from the 80s and mouth guards at all times, including while sleeping. There should be absolutely no physical contact between anyone and this should be enforced/ punished by solitary confinement for up to two days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battlefields View Post
    I received three severe concussions at high school, not one of them playing sport. We should ban metal poles as supporting structures, bags as people can trip on them and put safety wire around anywhere with a ledge of over a metre. All children should be forced to wear stack hats from the 80s and mouth guards at all times, including while sleeping. There should be absolutely no physical contact between anyone and this should be enforced/ punished by solitary confinement for up to two days.
    We must eliminate all kinds of exposure and risk period. It's for the children!
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    In this age of technology the answer is simple, I can't believe it hasn't already been mentioned.

    We recreate reality in a virtual environment. Our physical selves can be housed in safe facilities and we interact with each other in an electronic world, where mistakes can be reversed, critical injuries can be fixed with a press of a button and we can engage in any activity we want without fear of physical consequence.

    Bring on the matrix.
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    I think wrestling/martial arts are great for kids. I do not like to see striking to the head when the kids are young. Cant be worst than football though, my teen age son had a concussion and neck injury playing football. He is fine now but I would prefer to see him not play, but its hard to say no when football is so ingrained in our society. between my kids they have done martial arts, wrestling, track, gymnastics, basketball, volleyball and football. The most injuries came from football and gymnastics.
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