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  1. atomicpoet is offline

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    Is it possible to hold a black belt in boxing? YES!

    Here's proof.

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    Thanks, now I feel inadequate.

    Any chance I can at least get a yellow belt, maybe orange?

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    Is it possible to hold a black belt in boxing? YES!

    Here's proof.
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    Thanks, now I feel inadequate.

    Any chance I can at least get a yellow belt, maybe orange?
    Nah. Since the only real belts in (Western professional) boxing are the Ring magazine belts, the only belt available is red, white, blue, and gold. And it's a lot harder to get than most single-color belts.

    (For some reason, the Insert Picture tool isn't recognizing jpg files for me, so you will have to imagine its awesomely tacky beauty.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckWepner View Post
    Nah. Since the only real belts in (Western professional) boxing are the Ring magazine belts
    This used to be the case. Until recently, the RING belt was synonymous with being the lineal champion.

    But then Golden Boy Promotions bought out RING Magazine, fired the staff, and lowered their standards. Now they award the RING belt to any two fighters ranked within #1-5 in the RING Rankings.

    And just who decides who should be ranked? One man. That's right, one man named Chuck Giampa who's most famous for .

    Sounds like a mess, right? Well fear not!

    The old RING team, along with several esteemed journalists, have re-organized and created the Transnational Boxing Ratings — a ratings body that has enacted the old RING standards for designating lineal champions. If you're curious about who's on the Transnational Boxing Rating Board, here's a list of all the current members.

    By the way, I do think titles have value but I think it should be assumed that pro boxing only has 5 real champions:

    • Chad Dawson
    • Andre Ward
    • Sergio Martinez
    • Nonito Donaire
    • Toshiyuki Igarashi


    Everyone else with a world title is simply a titlist, not a champion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckWepner View Post
    the only belt available is red, white, blue, and gold.
    No, the WBA Super belt is also red, white, blue, and gold.

    What is the WBA Super belt for, you may ask? It's what the WBA gives to whoever unifies two world titles, even if the titlist didn't unify any WBA belts. There's a caveat here, of course. You only get the WBA Super belt if you're willing to pay the WBA's sanctioning fees ;)

    Now if someone who was previously a "regular" WBA titlist becomes a "super" titlist, the WBA will then declare their "regular" WBA title vacant and allow someone else to fight for it.

    This is why in the heavyweight division Wladimir Klitschko is the WBA Super World titlist while Alexander Povetkin is the plain WBA World titlist.

    By the way, the WBA is by far the worst sanctioning body in the world. The only reason people still fight for it is because they are, by far, the oldest sanctioning body in boxing.

    Here's what the WBA Super belt looks like if you're curious.

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    The best belt in boxing is the Lonsdale Belt. No argument.
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    Boxing politics fucking rock.
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    I came to combat sports through MMA more than boxing, and all the organizations and **** in boxing confuse me mightily and seem incredibly corrupt. Its sad, since boxing is so bad-ass.
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    Just for fun, I'm going to list all of the 1980's heavyweight boxing paper champions (Disincluding Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, and Mike Tyson):

    John Tate
    Mike Weaver
    Michael Dokes
    Gerrie Coetezee
    Tim Witherspoon
    Pinklon Thomas
    Greg Page
    Tony Tubbs
    Trevor Berbick
    James "Bonecrusher" Smith
    Tony Tucker
    Francesco Damiani

    Edit: I like Ken Norton too much to put him in there.
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    Chad Dawson as a true champion? Didn't he lose to Pascal and Ward and barely squeak past Hopkins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicpoet View Post

    By the way, I do think titles have value but I think it should be assumed that pro boxing only has 5 real champions:

    • Chad Dawson
    • Andre Ward
    • Sergio Martinez
    • Nonito Donaire
    • Toshiyuki Igarashi


    Everyone else with a world title is simply a titlist, not a champion.
    You think neither Vitali nor Wladimir Klitschko are champions?
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