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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    I guess I never thought about it being a mental illness, I just thought they were fucking nasty. I see your point.

    That said, I can gladly retract from my stance of Hitler being a warrior as he was mentally ill as well. At least from what I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    I guess I never thought about it being a mental illness, I just thought they were fucking nasty. I see your point.
    Not sure if I should congratulate you on that "insight" or just shake my head in dismay.
    I mean giving a girl a dirty sanches, that is nasty from my point of view... and a bunch of other things I do others might find nasty - Still all happening between consenting, functional adults.

    But seriously, sexual relationships with minors/ KIDS?!? just folks being nasty?!

    You are a father and somebody doing that to your kid would be "nasty"? Dude, seriously...
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    Alright, the whole Hitler thing was bad enough, now we've arrived at pedophiles... this thread is very, very deep in the toilet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    That said, I can gladly retract from my stance of Hitler being a warrior as he was mentally ill as well. At least from what I recall.
    He was mentally ill as well as addicted to numerous drugs. None of that excuses the atrocities he committed, but it helps to explain some of it.

    He was a pathetic little man with delusions of grandeur that sort of manifested themselves. He was a manipulative little megalomaniac.

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    He was a pathetic little man with delusions of grandeur that sort of manifested themselves. He was a manipulative little megalomaniac.
    You mean Hitler was somehow...bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand View Post
    You mean Hitler was somehow...bad?
    I don't personally think very much of him, but you can draw your own conclusion.

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    HISTORY BOMB
    long, but fuckit, some things are long n' ****.

    PLUS, enough of you are OC, someone will read it all :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    That said, I can gladly retract from my stance of Hitler being a warrior as he was mentally ill as well. At least from what I recall.
    I'm happy for your revelation. He was highly deranged, and also a vicious, racist, callous piece of work, beyond that.

    Millions upon millions of men and women served in WW1, Hitler included. That he served as a professional soldier in that conflict, would support his once having been in the "warrior" class. (Whether being a "warrior" is automatically a good thing, would be a key discussion to follow).

    After serving 5 years for treason, for an attempted coup, he (using intimidation) gained a slim majority in that national vote, and ascended to power. He then moved to assume full and complete powers over the populace.

    During the "Night of the Long Knives" (Auf Englisch), he had (much of) the leadership of his own goons murdered. Anyone who he thought might pose a future threat to his absolute control. This on his own "actual" people (his violent cohorts and underlings).

    Like many powermongers, he used the rhetoric of socialism, and was gifted in the use of populist themes, to motivate people. He didn't want that taken too seriously, as he planned to ramp up the war machine at the expense of the "workers". Offing his sub-leadership helped in that regard (to his mind).

    The sum of his life reveals no "warrior". A pathetic coward to (purportedly) married his gf, shot himself, with her to poison herself in an underground bunker as the capital of his assumed country burned from the retaliatory invasion.

    Bitter and deluded to the end, he blamed international jewry for the entire mess, and offed himself, having his now-wife do the same as kids and old men, conscripted into service, died fighting the Russian juggernaut. Europe, North Africa, and other places in tatters, and the round he fired, was at himself. No warrior there.

    Many of his generals etc were "removed" from service (and this mortal coil) during the conflict (over failure or suspicion), so any warrior he had in him, was gone as he delved into politics. He was as paranoid, vindictive, and brutal to his own leadership structure, as he was to Germans, and the world at large.
    http://www.wwiihistorymagazine.com/2...l-insight.html
    During the course of the war, Hitler executed 84 German generals, and another 135 generals were killed in action.
    By contrast, the US executed none. Not one. All things are not equal in war. The torture crowd ignores that to say "hey we're better", it behooves one to actually act better. If we're having a modern discussion on warriors, it is stratified.
    Nearly 1,100 U.S. Army generals served at some point during World War II, and of those about 40 died during or immediately following the war. Not all were in combat units, and some were not in enemy territory when they died.

    Of these generals, at least 11 were killed in action or died of wounds from hostile actions, two were executed by the Japanese while POWs, four were killed in plane crashes, one was killed by friendly fire, and five died of natural causes, including two of heart attacks. The remainder died of various causes in the first few months after the end of hostilities.
    Last edited by bobyclumsyninja; 3/13/2013 3:52pm at . Reason: Spoiler, for anyone who isn't OC enough to read it. Itwasntme, READ THIS SHIT, HOMIE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post
    nice writeup
    That **** is pretty fucking despicable. It's been so long since I've looked at any of this I had forgotten some of the nasty things Hitler did. Not that killing a few hundred of his own people somehow compares to the number 6,000,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slamdunc View Post
    I don't personally think very much of him, but you can draw your own conclusion.
    Awww...Hitler was just a poor, misunderstood li'l guy.

    Have you people no heart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    That **** is pretty fucking despicable. It's been so long since I've looked at any of this I had forgotten some of the nasty things Hitler did. Not that killing a few hundred of his own people somehow compares to the number 6,000,000.
    You wonder why I call Godwin's Law on you? Are you n the troll remorse stage now?

    Protip - you used the wrong person.....you should've used Erwin Rommel. ;-)
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