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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckWepner View Post
    I'm not trying to "win" anything. The guy threw around a bunch of insults and threats and ought to address that appropriately before he goes, if he's going. He has acted like an asshole. When people do that here, anybody is free to say so.

    It's pretty ironic that you are admonishing me for trying to win other people's fights (which I didn't do) while you are in the middle of trying to tell others how to post. And adding "Just my opinion" only shows that you were aware of your hypocrisy while committing it.
    No, not really. Maybe it's a personal weakness of mine, but I felt a bit sorry for the guy. Yeah, he was spouting bullshit, but it seemed to me that at some point he became aware that all of this was too much to handle for him. He realized that he was making an ass out of himself and said that he was going to stop posting. For me, there was no reason to keep on kicking his ass while he was on his way out.

    When I win something, I try to be a good winner. When I beat you at scrabble, I won't rub it in your face. What's the point? You already lost. I don't need you to spell the fact that I was better out for me.

    He "ought" to adress the insults and threats before he's going? Why? Why is he ought to do anything? His posting on an internet message board was ****, he said he was going to stop. Case closed, for me, at least.

    Now, about you winning other people's fights. I didn't see any of those "threats" or insults directed at you. Just surprised me to see you, then, jumping at the guy asking him to retract that stuff.

    Adding "just my opinion" shows that I was aware of my hypocrisy... really, does it? Actually, I'm not aware of any hypocrisy as of now, must have been a moment of clarity. Of course, on this forum, people like to get out the big guns early to... hm... win arguments or escalate them? I'm never sure. Some have some leverage when they do it... others, not so much.

    Anyway, adding "just my opinion" was an expression that implies that what I wrote was mostly opinion, not that I suggested that it was some guideline for everyone to live by. So, if you want to argue with a poster who stopped posting, do so. I don't see the necessity, is all.

    The fact that I wrote so much about this now is ridiculous enough. Also, it shows that I really really don't want to write those papers that are due in two days.

    I'm sure you'll have a big reply ready soon enough. I can't promise that I'll have much to add to this, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azatdawn View Post
    He "ought" to adress the insults and threats before he's going? Why? Why is he ought to do anything? His posting on an internet message board was ****, he said he was going to stop. Case closed, for me, at least. ...

    Adding "just my opinion" shows that I was aware of my hypocrisy... really, does it? ...

    Anyway, adding "just my opinion" was an expression that implies that what I wrote was mostly opinion, not that I suggested that it was some guideline for everyone to live by. So, if you want to argue with a poster who stopped posting, do so. I don't see the necessity, is all. ...

    I'm sure you'll have a big reply ready soon enough. I can't promise that I'll have much to add to this, though.
    Again, nobody "won" anything. A troll lied in his style field, publicly insulted Omega, and threatened several people. Then when he was shown that there was no basis for his insult, instead of manning up and responding like a decent person, he whine-quit. When someone acts like that on a discussion forum, anyone who sees it should feel free to point it out (as many others did as well).

    If you don't understand why he ought to have said something about threatening and insulting people for no reason, you need basic moral education that your parents should have given you. The fact that it was on the internet doesn't mean it didn't happen. I suspect that you do know better, and are just playing dumb for the sake of arguing.

    If you really thought what you said was "just your opinion" and not something others should follow, (a) you wouldn't have posted it and (b) you wouldn't have made it a response to someone else's post. You want to tell people what to do but not to have to justify it. But its being your opinion doesn't make it any less in need of justification, particularly when you express it publicly as a judgment on someone else's actions.

    So, you may not realize it, but that is a very passive-aggressive, as well as a rather hypocritical, way to talk / write to someone. I'm not saying that you are a horrible person or gearing up for some big fight, just pointing out to you that you have fallen prey to using a common pattern of thought that involves hypocrisy as well as cutting off meaningful discussion before it can start (since the mistaken idea is that if it is just your opinion then it isn't subject to critical evaluation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckWepner View Post
    If you really thought what you said was "just your opinion" and not something others should follow, (a) you wouldn't have posted it and (b) you wouldn't have made it a response to someone else's post. You want to tell people what to do but not to have to justify it. But its being your opinion doesn't make it any less in need of justification, particularly when you express it publicly as a judgment on someone else's actions.
    I disagree. I can state my opinion or make a suggestion on a subject without expecting other people to agree. In other words, I was giving my perspective. You might agree and decide to drop the subject or you might disagree and continue arguing with a person that said he was going to stop posting. Your decision.

    I never said my opinion wasn't subject to critical evaluation. You never criticized my idea of knowing when to stop winning, though. You argued that you weren't trying to win anything at all. This could come down to a semantics discussion of the meaning of the word "winning". I'm not sure if anyone wants that.

    Concerning my moral education... I don't know. I think it's alright. You might disagree. I never said that the fact that it happened on the internet doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's just that there are threats and insults that I don't take very seriously. Someone tells me that if a professional MMA fighter fought me in a cage I'd get my ass kicked? Well, alright. I just like not to let these things get to me. Must be my history in customer support. Getting insulted and threatened a lot might result in growing a thicker skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckWepner View Post
    Again, nobody "won" anything. A troll lied in his style field, publicly insulted Omega, and threatened several people. Then when he was shown that there was no basis for his insult, instead of manning up and responding like a decent person, he whine-quit. When someone acts like that on a discussion forum, anyone who sees it should feel free to point it out (as many others did as well).

    If you don't understand why he ought to have said something about threatening and insulting people for no reason, you need basic moral education that your parents should have given you. The fact that it was on the internet doesn't mean it didn't happen. I suspect that you do know better, and are just playing dumb for the sake of arguing.

    If you really thought what you said was "just your opinion" and not something others should follow, (a) you wouldn't have posted it and (b) you wouldn't have made it a response to someone else's post. You want to tell people what to do but not to have to justify it. But its being your opinion doesn't make it any less in need of justification, particularly when you express it publicly as a judgment on someone else's actions.

    So, you may not realize it, but that is a very passive-aggressive, as well as a rather hypocritical, way to talk / write to someone. I'm not saying that you are a horrible person or gearing up for some big fight, just pointing out to you that you have fallen prey to using a common pattern of thought that involves hypocrisy as well as cutting off meaningful discussion before it can start (since the mistaken idea is that if it is just your opinion then it isn't subject to critical evaluation).
    Ooooh... the internet police is ANGRY.

    Chuck, we get it. Some people on the internet somehow have the gaul to not act exactly like you want. You know what man? You should go and write a 300,000 word letter of complaint to Al Gore. And make sure to circulate copies to all the relevant people - the UN, the President, loads of other people who, like me and those previously mentioned, don't give a ****. And spend a LOOOONG time on it. You want to get it just right, you know? Now, don't come back til you're done.

    Can we PLEASE get back to Omega committing bloody kung fu violence on a deluded septuagenerian now?

    Come on guys... priorities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by battheo View Post
    Ooooh... the internet police is ANGRY.

    Chuck, we get it. Some people on the internet somehow have the gaul to not act exactly like you want. You know what man? You should go and write a 300,000 word letter of complaint to Al Gore. And make sure to circulate copies to all the relevant people - the UN, the President, loads of other people who, like me and those previously mentioned, don't give a ****. And spend a LOOOONG time on it. You want to get it just right, you know? Now, don't come back til you're done.

    Can we PLEASE get back to Omega committing bloody kung fu violence on a deluded septuagenerian now?

    Come on guys... priorities...
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    Megathrowdown. It will be in Kansas City, oh yes, it will be.
    Has Master Randy received a friendly invitation? Any reply?
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    The bottom line is the man is a coward. The challenge has been issued. Instead of choosing an honorable decline he talks himself up to show off to his sheep, and then he passively aggressively ignores any follow up. Then he'll simply will say he forgot and somehow save face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    The bottom line is the man is a coward. The challenge has been issued. Instead of choosing an honorable decline he talks himself up to show off to his sheep, and then he passively aggressively ignores any follow up. Then he'll simply will say he forgot and somehow save face.
    But you posted the link to this thread too. Surely they'll see this and realize that Master Li is a fake. Heck, let's just call him Li or Randy, he doesn't deserve that title, even if it's self-proclaimed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battheo View Post
    Ooooh... the internet police is ANGRY.
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    Can we PLEASE get back to Omega committing bloody kung fu violence on a deluded septuagenerian now?

    Come on guys... priorities...
    WTF are you talking about?

    I asked atheistmantis a couple of questions when he whine-quit. That is the sum total of my acting as "the internet police." Several other posters had less polite things to say to him.

    And where are you hallucinating angry in my exchange with Azatdawn? I like Azatdawn. He reminds me of some of my brighter undergrad students.

    Azatdawn decided atheistmantis needed a protector here, and he and I argued back & forth.

    Thanks for your irrelevant and fucktarded contribution. I didn't know anyone still had Al Gore as a bogeyman. Glenn Beck listener or just way behind on your "South Park"?

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