2/28/2013 1:47pm, #71
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I go over to AboveTopSecret once in a while for a chuckle. The funny part is that I look into that deep, deep pile of **** and I know damn well something there is true. Somebody is on to something. But we'll never know because it's a needle in a crazy stack.
2/28/2013 2:55pm, #72
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Edit: Eh, nevermind.
2/28/2013 3:04pm, #73
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Obama raising Black army to kill whites
3/01/2013 1:34pm, #74
But, seriously how do you explain this?!?!?
But to the point, I have attempted to temper my own paranoia. That said, what is conspiratorial in this thread? While Obama isn't raising a Black Army (or IS he???) in Guatemala, Iran, Indonesia, and Vietnam the role of covert operations, assassinations, The School of the Americas (+1500 Guatemalan military trained), and/or simple deceit is petty clear and frankly, where is the conspiracy?
Many years ago I read that in order to understand a nation's morality one should study their secret police; all else is bullshit and propaganda - the bottom line is the actions of the secret police.
I have been shaped by my own life's history. My mother's friend married Mcnamara, I went to school in Saigon with Carl Colby, son of the CIA chief (and late Director and if you or anyone wants to get into a juicy conspiracy, read the accounts of the local fishermen about where the body and canoe were found and currents) William Colby, Carl later himself an agent who infiltrated and befriended Bob Marley), my parents were drinking buddies with the Colbys and my own father was fired by Mcnamara from his job of Chief Navy MAAG Saigon for telling Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Max Taylor that our policies were losing the Vietnam war.
I knew it was bullshit fifty years ago, and I think the bullshit has continued.
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3/01/2013 1:48pm, #75
The review thinks Kinzer goes to far with this:
"With their devotion to radical Islam and their eagerness to embrace even the most horrific kinds of violence, Iran's revolutionary leaders became heroes to fanatics in many countries. Among those who were inspired by their example were Afghans who founded the Taliban, led it to power in Kabul, and gave Osama bin-Laden the base from which he launched devastating terror attacks. It is not far-fetched to draw a line from Operation Ajax through the Shah's repressive regime and the Islamic Revolution to the fireballs that engulfed the World Trade Center in New York."
Robarge, the reviewer, thinks that... overlooks conflicts between the Shia theocracy in Tehran and Sunni extremists in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and elsewhere... Hmmm, I agree with Kinzer, but will check out what he's saying. I don't agree with Robarge that US president's efforts to make the Shah reform were in anyway effective. Was there less torture?
Frankly, this will require more study and thinking to analyze. My first thought is taken with what the consequences of the Iraq war; enormous increase in influence for Iran/Shia which is being fought out now more of less with US and Saudi Arabia countering this in Pakistan and Afghanistan."Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
3/24/2013 9:43pm, #76
I knew Larry Pratt was a fanatic but I had no ideal he was nuts. GOA just got my last 20 bucks earlier this year I'm done.
4/06/2013 11:27pm, #77
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What about the latinos? I have distant relatives in the U.S
4/07/2013 1:43am, #78
This reminds me of when The Wastrel got pissed off when I posted that Chiang Kai Shek was a heroin dealing criminal, a veteran of the Green Gang, the thugs who wiped the commies in '27 and set up the Golden Triangle with fellow Green Gang members and used the CIA's Air American to fly raw opium to the factories in Taiwan. It's just history. Sorry if it doesn't fit the bullshit version people have swallowed. It's like bs TKD history to me, once you understand the truth, you can't stand the crapola. Some think that the Opium wars are ancient history and have no bearing on modern international relations. I understand that the Opium Wars didn't just end and everything then became rosy and peaceful. The French and British gained enormous funds from opium in my lifetime and it goes on with different players now. Similarly the establishment of the Shah and the SAVAK, Iran/Contra/Cocaine, Gulf War l and Gulf War ll are part of a pattern. IMHO a pattern of idiotic blundering by the US.
I did, by the way, read Brzezinzski's statements that were in response to recent criticisms of his scheme that funded (and some would argue, created) the mujahideen. He said **** off, what's a piddly little war in Afghanistan compared with bringing down the USSR. I, on the other hand, see it as part of the US's continued screw-ups that will bite us on the ass.
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4/07/2013 7:04am, #79
4/07/2013 9:55am, #80
You don't know how US-Mexico relations work if you think that's a real thing that can actually happen.
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