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  1. goodlun is online now
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    Dell outlet.

    Do not buy hp do not build yourself.

    W/ dell you get real support something u will not get if you build yourself or go with HP.
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    OTOH, with Dell Outlet, you're getting an open-box, cancelled order, or refurb that can be a year or more out of currency with respect to technology. Don't get me wrong, I also evangelize for Dell Outlet, but you should understand from a laymen's perspective why the price is "better." http://www.dell.com/us/dfh/p/d/campa...l-outlet-usdfh
    Last edited by submessenger; 2/25/2013 5:07pm at . Reason: emphasis
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    Just did a quick comparison.

    Dell Outlet for $959
    http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineS...&puid=4da754a8
    Processor: Intel Core i7-2640M 2nd generation Processor (2.80 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.50 GHz)
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
    Dell Outlet XPS L702X Laptop
    750 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
    8 GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
    8X DVD +/- RW Drive
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 3GB graphics with Optimus

    VS.
    HP for $1034.99
    Components
    • Windows 8 64
    • 3rd generation Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor (2.4GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
    • Included 2 Year Warranty
    • NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 635M Graphics with 2048MB of dedicated video memory
    • 17.3-inch diagonal High Definition BrightView LED-backlit Display (1600 x 900)
    • 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 750GB 7200 rpm Hybrid Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
    • Microsoft Office Trial
    • No additional security software
    • 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    • Standard Keyboard
    • HP TrueVision HD Webcam with integrated dual array digital microphone
    • 802.11b/g/n WLAN

    For $76 more, with the HP, you get 2 year warranty (vs. 1 year warranty), 3rd gen CPU (vs. 2nd gen CPU), 2GB later-generation graphics card (vs. 3GB graphics card -- Dell maybe wins here).
    I don't see why Dell Outlet is the clear-cut winner.
    Am I missing something here?
    OK, maybe I am a noob and know nothing about computers. Please enlighten me.
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    More details about the above CPU comparison.
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/power_performance.html

    Dell Outlet CPU: i7-2640M Rating: 116
    HP CPU: i7-3630QM Rating: 171
    Winner HP

    Plus Dell Outlet charges another $130 to extend the warranty from 1 year to 2 years. (Yes, I know it's a waste of money, but just sayin').

    In all honesty, what I am overlooking here?
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    OK, the above link is "Power Performance", and so you can say that I quoted the wrong page.
    The pages below are based on CPU performance only.

    Dell Outlet CPU: i7-2640M
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...2.80GHz&id=876
    Average CPU mark: 4071

    HP CPU: i7-3630QM
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?....40GHz&id=1444
    Average CPU mark: 7715 (Higher results represent better performance)

    Winner HP
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    Graphic card comparison

    Dell Outlet: NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 3GB graphics with Optimus
    http://community.futuremark.com/hard...GT+555M/review
    Score: 1350

    HP: NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 635M Graphics with 2048MB of dedicated video memory
    http://community.futuremark.com/hard...GT+635M/review
    Score: 1390

    Winner HP (by slight margin)

    Am I wrong, or did the HP model just trump every spec of the Dell Outlet model for only $76 more?
    This is what I meant by the first sentence in my original posting: "Dell is good, but I think that you will get more for your money with HP."

    As a noobie, next time, I'll probably just refrain from offering advice if I don't have time to back up every statement for information that is already easily and widely-available on the Internet....
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    Quote Originally Posted by judokan4life View Post
    In all honesty, what I am overlooking here?

    The joke is you're still comparing Dell Outlet prices (which are for certified pre-owns, refurbs, and returns as Submessenger pointed out) to HP's retail, non-outlet prices. That is, as they say, apples and oranges.

    Battlefields is on a LOW BUDGET. People on low budgets love Dell Outlet because it's a never ending supply of bargain priced hardware that comes and goes. Sometimes the prices on high end hardware are DIRT CHEAP. You can very often get superior hardware for much lower price than HP...but you have to wait until a hot item comes on the Outlet.

    There is no doubt in my mind a system with the same specs as HP might show up on Dell Outlet for hundreds of dollars less, and get snagged in 5m.

    That is just how outlet stores work. You watch the inventory and wait to strike when the iron is hot, the specs are high, and the price is low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judokan4life View Post
    As a noobie, next time, I'll probably just refrain from offering advice if I don't have time to back up every statement for information that is already easily and widely-available on the Internet....
    There is plenty of information easily and widely available on the internet that isn't true.

    But yes, expect to back up your statements/claims on this website with facts or evidence.
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    If that's the case, I stand corrected.
    I am not too familiar with how those outlets work, and I assumed that there was just a token discount on all products. I didn't realize that it varied so much.

    It was not long ago that you needed 2K or more to get a decent computer configuration, but you can easily get a high-end configuration now for less than 1K. And so, many prices today still look dirt-cheap to me.
    Perhaps it would have helped me better if I had a specific figure, such as $400, which is probably out of the range of HP's base models.

    And thanks for the explanation.
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    HP also has an outlet. They'll also add customizations like better graphics. YMMV, but the careful eye gets a great system at a bargain every time...it's like hitting the 1-UP loop.



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    676162R-999-F9LL 	Refurbished		HP z220 W7P-64 X E3-1225 V2 3.2GHz 250GB SATA 4GB DVDRW Intel HD P4000 Rmkt SFF WS 	$679.00 	 
    676162R-999-FJB9 	Refurbished		HP z220 W7P-64 X E3-1225 V2 3.2GHz 250GB SATA 8GB DVD Intel HD P4000 Rmkt SFF WS 	$799.00
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