Can Women Really Handle Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?

**Mister** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 4:47pm

Originally Posted by lordbd

I see what you mean about avoiding discrimination by training with partners in a way that is blind to gender. On the other hand, some modern feminist thought points out the dangers of both alpha bias (exaggerating gender differences) and beta bias (ignoring differences).

Not sure how that might apply comprehensively in this situation, but one analogy would be the use of chest protection for women in kickboxing sparring. Not letting a woman spar could be alpha bias, but not recognizing the possible need for chest protection could be beta bias. So in that case treating women TOO equally could also discourage them from training.

Well, I've never thought of it that way.

So there's too much discrimination.

Too little discrimination.

And there's an amount of discrimination that's just right.

**lukerawks** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 4:52pm

Originally Posted by Mister

I'm sure it's a huge trauma.

But it's still no reason to quit.

That separates who really wants success from who doesn't.

Lloyd? Is that you?

**Mister** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 4:54pm

Originally Posted by Holy Moment

No, it more like risking parlysis, which is counter-intuitive to achieving your goals of becoming stronger and better through martial arts.

It's the least dangerous option to get stronger.

If I get dropped in Judo I might be done for completely.

Barbell activities are staid and controlled, my only option.

And I can't afford surgery.

I've thought about it a lot. Thanks for your insight though.

**Resonance10** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 4:58pm

Originally Posted by Mister

Well, I've never thought of it that way.

So there's too much discrimination.

Too little discrimination.

And there's an amount of discrimination that's just right.

Or there's common fucking sense. And respecting peoples comfort levels.
The psychological trauma in sexual abuse can be debilitating on so many levels its naive of you to say it shouldn't stop someone training. Ideally NOTHING should stop someone training..but reality bites.

**Resonance10** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 4:58pm

double postiness..

**DKJr** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 5:06pm

Originally Posted by lukerawks

Lloyd? Is that you?

What Nahhh

**lukerawks** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 5:09pm

Originally Posted by Mister

It's the least dangerous option to get stronger.

If I get dropped in Judo I might be done for completely.

Barbell activities are staid and controlled, my only option.

And I can't afford surgery.

I've thought about it a lot. Thanks for your insight though.

I think the *least* dangerous option to get stronger would be maybe listening to your doctors and staying home until your BROKEN BACK heals?

Who has made the determination that this is your only option, as you stated earlier that 'the doctors' said to stay at home? I think THAT is probably your only option....it just seems that you didn't like what they had to say so you're risking further injury by planning your own therapy.

Also....are you an Aikidoka?

**Permalost** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 5:26pm

Originally Posted by Mister

That separates who really wants success from who doesn't.

What does success mean in terms of being good at BJJ? Being able to ward off a sexual assault? Cause in your bizarre scenario they'd be more successful staying home. I guess that's what separates who really wants success from who doesn't.

How about squatting heavy with a broken back when all doctors said to stay at home?

Is that like BJJ to you?

Why would you do this? Was your doctor a woman or something?

**AKRhino** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 5:28pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

What does success mean in terms of being good at BJJ? Being able to ward off a sexual assault? Cause in your bizarre scenario they'd be more successful staying home. I guess that's what separates who really wants success from who doesn't.

Why would you do this? Was your doctor a woman or something?

What I'm getting is that he would equally ignore the advice of both male and female medical professionals.

**ChuckWepner** · Posted On: 2/20/2013 5:33pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

What does success mean in terms of being good at BJJ? Being able to ward off a sexual assault? Cause in your bizarre scenario they'd be more successful staying home. I guess that's what separates who really wants success from who doesn't.
Why would you do this? Was your doctor a woman or something?

The battle over YOLO. Mister takes it in the sense of "go for it." Permalost thinks maybe The Lonely Island has a point.