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  1. lechuza is offline

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    aerobic vs. anaerobic re: MA

    Kind of related to the "Improving Cardio" thread:

    I'm starting to feel that anaerobic cardio conditioning is way more important than aerobic as far as fighting goes, but does that mean that aerobic training should be entirely ignored? If not, why?

    Any opinions on this?
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    Think about Bob Sapp.

    Truthfully though, I think aerobic conditioning is very important. I don't think you have to be a track star, but I do think you should go out and do some running. You'll notice a difference when you're fighting.
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    Fighting has more to do with recovery time, and short intense bursts. The problem is your body takes more time to recover, where a good anaerobicly trained person's body will recover faster while you are still gasping for air. ANY short intense burst will have you fighting for air, cause thats how the system replenishes itself. Spar, wrestle, run sprints. REPEAT many times over.
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    'Aerobic' training as such can almost be completely discarded.

    You want cardio? Clean and press 100 lbs as many times as you can in 3 minutes and tell me what your heart is doing. . .
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    I sprint 2-3 days a week convering the anaerobic aspect and I throw in a long distance run once a week for maintaining a decent base of aerobic conditioning. They are both important. They complement each other well.

    Ippatsu. running IS anaerobic . Jogging is aerobic.. Do you understand the difference between the 2? because lechuza never said anything about discarding running.
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    ugh... i hate running. i feel like i'm too heavy for my own knees.

    i do recumbent exercise bike and try to keep my heart rate around 149 BPM for 30 min or so, but i've been getting more into doing combos on the heavy bag for about as long as i can then doing push ups, then shrimping across the floor then more combos on the bag etc.--trying to get my heart and lungs going.

    Like 'Little Idea' said, i was really into getting gassed doing power cleans at multiple sets of 8...until someone hinted that power cleans aren't the type of exercise you want to do until fialure, but it is a worhtwhile exercise if done carefully.

    Yeah, i guess you need both, but i fucking hate jogging/running.
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    Originally posted by lechuza
    until someone hinted that power cleans aren't the type of exercise you want to do until failure
    You should be fine with 100 lbs. for 'cardio' day, worse case just throw the weight.

    Find a weight where you can at least do a set of 20 from the floor to overhead.

    Nothing gets your heart pounding faster.
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    Striking is more anaerobic.

    Grappling is more aerobic, simply because a good grappler can relax and catch his breath much more often.

    Little Idea is cleaning and jerking the correct, olympic style. On top of that, some of my best anaerobic training was in Wing Chun punching drills... ugh. You won't build up big guns doing 30 minutes of chain punching or Tan Da, but you will be one wiry bastard who can punch non stop forever without gassing.
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    Someone already posted a very good, scientific, and useful article on specific cardio training for fights on another thread. I think it was about either Evander Holyfield or George Foreman. I'll see if I can find it.

    The point of it though, was that if you fight 2 minute intervals, you need to train cardio with similar intensity for 2 minute intervals to condition your heart and lungs to this type of exercise.
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    thnx for the feedback, guys...
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