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    read some of the recent gun control threads that have been doing the rounds recently
    Considered in the abstract the boxing ring is an altar of sorts, one of those legendary spaces where the laws of a nation are suspended: inside the ropes, during an officially regulated three-minute round, a man may be killed by his opponent's hands but he cannot be legally murdered. Boxing inhabits a sacred space predating civilization; or, to use D.H. Lawrence's phrase, before God was love. If it suggests a savage ceremony or a rite of atonement it also suggests the futility of such gestures. For what possible atonement is the fight waged if it must shortly be waged again... and again? The boxing match is the very image, the more terrifying for being so stylized, of mankind's collective aggression; its ongoing historical madness.
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    You guys forgot about sharpened sticks. Oh and rocks, those are dangerous too. Actually though didn't England do this already??
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    In Ireland I need a permit for a paintball gun (?)
    Considered in the abstract the boxing ring is an altar of sorts, one of those legendary spaces where the laws of a nation are suspended: inside the ropes, during an officially regulated three-minute round, a man may be killed by his opponent's hands but he cannot be legally murdered. Boxing inhabits a sacred space predating civilization; or, to use D.H. Lawrence's phrase, before God was love. If it suggests a savage ceremony or a rite of atonement it also suggests the futility of such gestures. For what possible atonement is the fight waged if it must shortly be waged again... and again? The boxing match is the very image, the more terrifying for being so stylized, of mankind's collective aggression; its ongoing historical madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Ape View Post
    Yeah but that the **** do we do about Zombies ?
    Yeah, they will never give up their pockets!
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    You guys forgot about sharpened sticks. Oh and rocks, those are dangerous too. Actually though didn't England do this already??
    I hear that harsh words really are effective.
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    In Ireland I need a permit for a paintball gun (?)
    In all fairness do you realize just how much damage a paintball gun could do to this guy??Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Ape View Post
    I hear that harsh words really are effective.
    Yes, but the anti-gun people say we can just call the cops and wait....and wait and wait.
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    Why? Please elaborate. I disagree because I think it is a intrinsic individual human right to own a weapon. I believe government should not usurp and monopolize that right. I also believe it is a dangerous right (like all individual rights) that causes immense pain and suffering (like all individual rights) to people periodically and that it is cold comfort to tell people that freedom is the price for the pain they are in. Nonetheless freedom is a very valuable thing that we should not let go of. Freedom is dangerous, chaotic, and scary but it is something so few humans get to have. So there is my thoughts. Also, ALL aspects of freedom are dangerous. Words can lead to violence, assembling in large crowds can bring violence, not randomly searching people's houses leads to huge amounts of criminal activity that is not stopped.
    He's not saying you can't own a weapon. He's just limiting your rate of fire.

    Wouldn't hindering people's effectiveness at killing cause a reduction of casualties in mass murder situations? It wouldn't make the numbers go higher.

    Often there's an argument that knives and other weapons kill also, so why not ban them too, but frankly I see it as an apples and oranges argument. Take this, for example: http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/sto...ng-victim.html

    A guy goes on a rampage with a knife and a hammer through an apartment building, and no one died. Would there have been a difference if he was carrying guns? We can only speculate, but I would think that there would have been at least one death, and more if we're talking about something with a really high rate of fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huge View Post
    He's not saying you can't own a weapon. He's just limiting your rate of fire.

    Wouldn't hindering people's effectiveness at killing cause a reduction of casualties in mass murder situations? It wouldn't make the numbers go higher.

    Often there's an argument that knives and other weapons kill also, so why not ban them too, but frankly I see it as an apples and oranges argument. Take this, for example: http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/sto...ng-victim.html

    A guy goes on a rampage with a knife and a hammer through an apartment building, and no one died. Would there have been a difference if he was carrying guns? We can only speculate, but I would think that there would have been at least one death, and more if we're talking about something with a really high rate of fire.
    Meh, we could do this all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huge View Post
    He's not saying you can't own a weapon. He's just limiting your rate of fire.
    Oh, and no, I don't think that is what he is saying. Since rate of fire is how fast a weapon can fire it's projectiles. As in rounds per minute or rounds per second. He said that the right to cary a firearm should be limited to LEO and security guards. Not that they should be forced to shoot slower.
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    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

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