Is BJJ still Good for MMA

**itwasntme** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:32pm

Originally Posted by jeffphansen77

Yeah, he does have a few. Anyways...I understand the history of BJJ. ButI take it for granted that BJJ has innovated on the guard to a level that forces other grappling arts to study the BJJ guard in order to deal with it. This is based on what I've seen of BJJ & MMA. If I'm wrong about this, can you tell me why?

You were just shown a video...

**goodlun** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:36pm

Originally Posted by itwasntme

I'd hardly disqualify fighting events in other countries as MMA simply because they are not required to adhere to the rules we use in the US.

Would you call every game where people throw a ball into a basket basketball? MMA is now a specific rule-set. Going forward it is only MMA when it follows those rules.

K1 would be an example in the past one might be able to call it MMA as it is a mixture of striking arts. However now, you would just look foolish to define it as such.

As a side note I really don't like the term MMA but we are stuck with it.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:37pm

Originally Posted by jeffphansen77

Yeah, he does have a few. Anyways...I understand the history of BJJ. ButI take it for granted that BJJ has innovated on the guard to a level that forces other grappling arts to study the BJJ guard in order to deal with it. BJJ is to sweeps & guard attacks what Judo is to throws, to put it crudely. This is based on what I've seen of BJJ & MMA, not experience. If I'm wrong about this, can you tell me why?

No, you don't understand the history of BJJ. The ignorant of your facts are screaming. Go back to your original statement. BTW I want proof you do generic MMA or remove it from your style field.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:41pm

Originally Posted by goodlun

Would you call every game where people throw a ball into a basket basketball? MMA is now a specific rule-set. Going forward it is only MMA when it follows those rules.

K1 would be an example in the past one might be able to call it MMA as it is a mixture of striking arts. However now, you would just look foolish to define it as such.

As a side note I really don't like the term MMA but we are stuck with it.

You should start a thread on that.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:46pm

Originally Posted by jeffphansen77

Yeah, he does have a few. Anyways...I understand the history of BJJ. ButI take it for granted that BJJ has innovated on the guard to a level that forces other grappling arts to study the BJJ guard in order to deal with it. BJJ is to sweeps & guard attacks what Judo is to throws, to put it crudely. This is based on what I've seen of BJJ & MMA, not experience. If I'm wrong about this, can you tell me why?

Pay close attention to how Kimura passes Helios guard with next to 0 effort.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:52pm

You also when you watch the video you should also see how Kimura properly keeps himself positioned to prevent Helio from recovering guard.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:54pm

And...

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 2/02/2013 5:56pm

Originally Posted by jeffphansen77

Ignorant, maybe? I'm here to learn as much or more than most. Dogmatic? No. You don't know what you're talking about & read what you wanted too into it. I'm here for the high level of knowledge to be found all around. The trolls are the **** I wade through for the tasty peanuts.

You rarely talk like an adult. You barge in with insults & general fuckhead attitude. It goes to **** from there. Someone's being wrong isn't much of an excuse for your chronic shitty attitude.

I rarely talk like an adult? Tell me how I don't talk like an adult you fucking idiot.