1/30/2013 2:53am, #61
Suffice to say, there's a lot of people who've previously claimed members of the Otani family have awarded Judo rank, they use the Otani name as some means of superficially adding credibility to otherwise bullshit grades. I'll wager a good guess this is exactly one of those occasions."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
1/30/2013 7:24am, #62
Email fired off through the BJC website regarding Bryan Cheek's claim of grade(s) from Robin Otani
Would you be in a position to clarify if a gentleman by the name of Bryan Cheek is known to your oganisation ?
One of Mr. Cheek's students states that Mr. Cheek was a 5 times Judo Champion and graded to 6th dan by Mr. Robin Otani, these claims have been made to Mr. Cheek's students and, having been involved in previous investigative process with a Mr. Name Redacted, I have been asked if I would approach your good selves to obtain any verification of Mr. Cheek's claims.
I am not looking to discredit the BJC in any way but would welcome any information as requested.
Name and email redacted"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
1/30/2013 8:19am, #63
- Join Date
- Jul 2009
BJA's online Dan Grade register has one entry for Brian K Cheek awarded 1st dan in 1973.
Can't be certain whether this is the same Brian Cheek though.
1/30/2013 10:05am, #64
- Join Date
- Aug 2011
- Cairo, Egypt
As long as he knows he has to fight in his training it's all good.
Check out the fight at around 2:50 some beast kicks.
They're probably the same **** because awwwwwwww, in the end of the video the guy writes: This is Pradai Serey NOT Muai Thai. He capitalized NOT too because he's putting his foot down to end this injustice and everything.
How cute! There's a whole dispute about it too like the Korean and Japanese martial arts.
Who gives a **** man? Just go out there and bust your ass. Leave this **** for the historians.
I have 666 points.
1/30/2013 10:41am, #65
1/30/2013 10:47am, #66
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1/30/2013 11:00am, #67
Lifted from http://tigersdenjiu-jitsu.com/manual.pdf
Soke Bryan Cheek born 1951, attained his black belt (first Dan) in Judo after 11 years of trainings in 1969 from his Sensei, Japanese Master Otani Matsutaru. His trainings under Matsutaru Otani started in 1964. Having become one of his best English students, Soke Bryan Cheek trained under Master Matsutaru Otani until Matsutaru‘s death in 1977.
The last grade, gained from Otani Matsutaru, was 4th Dan in the art of Judo. After that the leadership of the Society of Judo was passed to his son, Robin Otani (the present British Judo Council President), who graded Soke Bryan Cheek to 5th and 6th Dan in the art of Judo.
From 1969 till 1970 Soke Bryan Cheek had an opportunity to train under outstanding Japanese Master Kenshiro Abbe (1975 - 1985), the holder of 8th Dan in Judo, 6th Dan in Kendo, Kudo, Aikido and Karate; Judo champion among 5th Dan holders and absolute Japan Champion in year 1933. Abbe Sensei was the youngest Judo 3rd, 4th and 5th Dan
holder and Japan Judo champion in its history (18 years old).
Soke Bryan Cheek opened his first dojo in London in 1972. The “Judo Ippon” club was famous for its rigid old Judo practices; it was considered shameful to win a fight without “ippon”. Sacrifice throws were considered not correct, as they were dangerous in a real life, not sport, fighting. “Kosen judo” wrestling was also practiced intensively in the dojo. Many of “Judo Ippon” students were successful in tournaments, and Soke Bryan Cheek himself became five fold British National Judo Champion.
After having achieved Master qualification in Judo, Soke Bryan Cheek began to seriously to engage in Ju Jutsu training. He trained under a specialist Committee headed by Professor James Blandell (the founder of British Ju Jutsu Association, consequently founded WJJF) and Professor Robert Clark. The name of style practiced was “Juko Ryu Ju Jutsu” - was borrowed during the relationships with “Jukokai International” and its leader Rod Socharnosky.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9116"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
1/30/2013 11:07am, #68
Confirmation from the BJC
Not so surprisingly:
Dear Mr. Name Redacted.
Mr. Cheek was indeed a member of the BJC for some years but only achieved the grade of 3rd Dan
However he has not been a member of our organisation since 1977
BJC Head Office"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
1/30/2013 11:12am, #69
I've moved this to MABS as I feel this is worthy of greater exposure given the confirmation from the British Judo Council and Mr. Cheeks connections to other obvious and known martial arts bullshit."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
1/30/2013 11:29am, #70
I've culled this thread with the YMAS/Trollshido acceptable comments.
This is now a MABS thread so please post accordingly.
If you want to rant post here http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=119726"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".