Who is Dale Miller?

**Bull5hithunter** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:00pm

Ok, so there's this dude from Louisville KY, who CLAIMS to be a 5 TIME MMA WORLD CHAMPION. He runs a school called the Louisville Fight Shop (I think). He also runs a liquor store and an insurance agency or some ****. Dude talks a lot of ****, and I was wondering if ANYONE knows who he really is?

He bills himself as a B movie actor now, and has appeared in a bunch of shitty films. Whats concerning is that people are taking lessons from this dude and eating up his BS (not to mention paying good money for it). His website is nothing short of hilarious. Check it out (even if you just need a good laugh).

I did some lurking around, the only record of any fight with him in it I can find is during Caged Inferno back in 2006. He got his ass beat. What a world champion. Thoughts??

I've got links but it won't let me post them cause I'm new. Check out Dale Miller . Biz That would be a good place to start.

**Soldiermedic** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:17pm

Jesus that website....I wish it would stop telling me its time for the main event.

google search yields a similar thread questioning his credentials: http://www.rubbies.net/dyingkind/smf...?topic=17707.0

and interestingly, an interview with another mma fighter turned stuntman Dale Miller on bjpenn.com.

This guy really goes all out. I'm sending him a message via the webpage asking him if he can provide a URL for International Cage Battle, I'll let you all know what his reply is.

This is his bio: http://dalemiller.biz/index.php/biography/

The only fight record I could find lists him as 0-1

**Bull5hithunter** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:27pm

Awesome. Thanks man. Yeah his webpage is HILARIOUS. Evidently, he's kind of a "big deal" around here lol. Dudes got a lot of shiny belts lol. Maybe he's legit?

**Permalost** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:27pm

This particular subforum has guidelines for an investigation; if you want this in the investigation section you'll have to do some homework first. What are his fraudulent claims, where is the proof that he's lying, etc? This forum isn't just "for a good laugh".

The claims I see on his website:
-5th degree black belt in Che Lu, a system I've never heard of before

-bodyguard work for Jaime Fox, Tommy Davidson, Miss America, Muhammad Ali, Out Kast, Too Short

-served in the army

-head security and trainer for local night clubs in Louisville.

-Winning over 20 Grand championships and World titles

-Over 200 victories in competition

2005 Sparring World Champion
2005 Kata World Champion
2005 Weapons World Champion
2005 International Cage Battle (I.C.B) Middle Weight World Champion

Screenshot of his website bio:

**Bull5hithunter** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:52pm

I did do some homework. Actually, I've got several links to newspaper articles and a youtube clip of one of his fights (which he lost). Can't post them cause I'm new here. I have actually met this dude once through a friend. I can assure you his ego is just as large in person. There are other links online to people questioning his credentials. I've heard from other martial artists in Louisville that he runs a pretty successful club and charges quite a bit for training.

Sorry if my tone sounded "joking". I had just listened to the intro on his webpage (which you must admit is fairly entertaining). I just think that if he is charging people money for something, he should at least be truthful with his students. That's all. Thanks for you help.

**Bull5hithunter** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:54pm

It's says I need five posts to post links. So heres number four...

**Bull5hithunter** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:56pm

Number five. Now it should let me post my ****.

**Bull5hithunter** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:57pm

http://www.state-journal.com/sports/...-championships

And I still don't see anywhere he won 5 MMA World Titles.

**Bull5hithunter** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 6:59pm

Here is also a link to another forum where people are questioning his credibility. Dude makes some serious claims. Just wondering how he has slid through the cracks and no one has called him on it. Or, maybe, he really is that much of a bad ass...

http://www.rubbies.net/dyingkind/smf...?topic=17707.0

**doc8404** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 7:21pm

Did some quick checking and figured the following:

CHE-LU is a homegrown MA founded by this guy:
http://www.state-journal.com/obituar...n-wesley-mason

Here's the only active website I could find on the style:
http://www.chelumartialarts.com/ABOUT_US.html

Now, the Mason gentleman was the Chief of Police for the Kentucky State University, but I can't find anything on Miller as an Officer. I find no court cases with Dale Miller listed in Franklin County (where KSU is located). It's hard to be a cop without making any arrests. Maybe that's why he became a club bouncer?

This article:
http://www.state-journal.com/sports/...-championships

says that the competition was in December of 2005 in Panama City, FL. I can find nothing.

This IMDB listing:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3589171/

is his movie work. Low budget is pretty clear here.