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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Good ukemi waza does take a lot of practice and skill, and is useful to protect yourself when falling, voluntarily or otherwise.
    Totally. Back when I did fanchento there was a big emphasis on correct falling technique and we drilled different types of falls/rolls almost every lesson. Some of those guys are starting a freefall descent from about shoulder height right onto their backs, I can see that going all kinds of horribly wrong if I tried that without some serious groundwork (pardon the pun) first.

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    Go read Rock Ape's threads on Aikido.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    Sorry, I forgot where I was. It won't happen again.

    My TMA-to-YMAS dictionary says my last post translates to: "**** you and your misinformed ****, you noob cretin."
    Now that's the spirit, you LARPing dickfunnel.

    But yeah, in your own post, you allude to Aikdo's collapsing quality control. The more strip mall dojos distributing Magic Pants to anybody with a valid credit card number, the weaker the claim that it is a learnable physical skillset.

    I have no information about its relative popularity, but a thread on another forum spontaneously appeared in the last few days, claiming Seagal's Aikido resume is proof of badassery. Society has not sufficiently matured to the point where reality is distinct from film. Aikido (and every other art) is just one slightly less fat action star from a renaissance.

    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    Sorry, I forgot where I was. It won't happen again.

    My TMA-to-YMAS dictionary says my last post translates to: "**** you and your misinformed ****, you noob cretin."
    Now that's the spirit, you LARPing dickfunnel.

    But yeah, in your own post, you allude to Aikdo's collapsing quality control. The more strip mall dojos distributing Magic Pants to anybody with a valid credit card number, the weaker the claim that it is a learnable physical skillset.

    I have no information about its relative popularity, but a thread on another forum spontaneously appeared in the last few days, claiming Seagal's Aikido resume is proof of badassery. Society has not sufficiently matured to the point where reality is distinct from film. Aikido (and every other art) is just one slightly less fat action star from a renaissance.

    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    Sorry, I forgot where I was. It won't happen again.

    My TMA-to-YMAS dictionary says my last post translates to: "**** you and your misinformed ****, you noob cretin."
    Now that's the spirit, you LARPing dickfunnel.

    But yeah, in your own post, you allude to Aikdo's collapsing quality control. The more strip mall dojos distributing Magic Pants to anybody with a valid credit card number, the weaker the claim that it is a learnable physical skillset.

    I have no information about its relative popularity, but a thread on another forum spontaneously appeared in the last few days, claiming Seagal's Aikido resume is proof of badassery. Society has not sufficiently matured to the point where reality is distinct from film. Aikido (and every other art) is just one slightly less fat action star from a renaissance.
    "Your body must be like a stone, your mind... like a meatloaf."

    Quote Originally Posted by strikistanian View Post
    DROP SEIONAGI ************! Except I don't know Judo, so it doesn't work, and he takes my back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Devil
    Why is it so goddamn hard to find a video of it? I've seen videos I'm pretty sure are alien spacecraft. But still no good Krav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    Sorry, I forgot where I was. It won't happen again.

    My TMA-to-YMAS dictionary says my last post translates to: "**** you and your misinformed ****, you noob cretin."
    Nope.

    Here's an appropriate translation.



    http://www.gizoogle.net/index.php?se...le+Dis+Shiznit
    Last edited by W. Rabbit; 7/31/2013 12:27pm at .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ermghoti View Post
    Now that's the spirit, you LARPing dickfunnel.

    But yeah, in your own post, you allude to Aikdo's collapsing quality control. The more strip mall dojos distributing Magic Pants to anybody with a valid credit card number, the weaker the claim that it is a learnable physical skillset.
    I don't think this is quite it. Aikido, as far as I can tell, doesn't really have the kind of commercialism problems one sees in other arts: I've never seen a storefront aikido club and I've never known an aikido club to throw rank around for money like some taekwondo and karate clubs do. There just isn't enough money in aikido to create these kinds of problems.

    The philosophy and the sophisticated physics that are the hallmarks of aikido have a great appeal to hippies, artists, and intellectuals (I myself would fall into the last two categories); it's very easy for these kinds of people to geek out about the neat stuff one sees in aikido without actually doing much training. As a result, I see a lot of well-meaning aikido instructors letting their classes devolve into slow, unstructured, unnecessarily verbal explorations of philosophy and physics which involve very little repetition.

    And when that happens, you create guys like this (from the aikido thread on the Japanese TMA boards last week):

    Quote Originally Posted by artsofjapan View Post
    The really great thing about Aikido is that absolutely anyone can do it. Whether you are 80 years old or whatever, the techniques that apply can be done by anyone with virtually no physical effort against someone much stronger than them. The only real thing that will determine whether you can be successful in Aikido is your mental strength. You must have good 'will-power' and be able to concentrate in the most difficult situations. Aikido is almost more mental work than physical work. While getting the actual throws is important, you must to let your ego get the better of you.
    We are creating a generation of people who think that aikido is all about thinking. I want to smack these people. Martial arts aren't about thinking; the goal of the martial artist is to train until he reaches the point where he doesn't need to think at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Go read Rock Ape's threads on Aikido.
    I'll second that motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    I don't think this is quite it. Aikido, as far as I can tell, doesn't really have the kind of commercialism problems one sees in other arts: I've never seen a storefront aikido club and I've never known an aikido club to throw rank around for money like some taekwondo and karate clubs do. There just isn't enough money in aikido to create these kinds of problems.

    The philosophy and the sophisticated physics that are the hallmarks of aikido have a great appeal to hippies, artists, and intellectuals (I myself would fall into the last two categories); it's very easy for these kinds of people to geek out about the neat stuff one sees in aikido without actually doing much training. As a result, I see a lot of well-meaning aikido instructors letting their classes devolve into slow, unstructured, unnecessarily verbal explorations of philosophy and physics which involve very little repetition.

    And when that happens, you create guys like this (from the aikido thread on the Japanese TMA boards last week):



    We are creating a generation of people who think that aikido is all about thinking. I want to smack these people. Martial arts aren't about thinking; the goal of the martial artist is to train until he reaches the point where he doesn't need to think at all.
    No money involved? Surrrrreee. I'v known more than one person in Aikikai (yudansha) and there are definitely money issues, politics (you did't mention that, I know), territorial disputes, and all the normal foibles of human nature that get amplified by being "sensei", nepotism, favoritism, you name it.
    Falling for Judo since 1980

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    The philosophy and the sophisticated physics that are the hallmarks of aikido
    Sophisticated? No. Stop. Don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    We are creating a generation of people who think that aikido is all about thinking.
    That generation came and went and we're now several beyond it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    I want to smack these people. Martial arts aren't about thinking; the goal of the martial artist is to train until he reaches the point where he doesn't need to think at all.
    You're being a dumbass.

    Remember that next time you want to smack someone and you do it without thinking about it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katje View Post
    You know your chi is strong when your opponents start falling over from 15 feet away.
    The Ki is really strong with Mr Takeda.



    From about 0:27 onward he shows that he's the real deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doofaloofa View Post
    Brah, do you even spar?
    Do you actually read and thoughtfully respond to other people's posts, or just spout off whatever pops into your head?

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