Why do YOU think Aikido Sucks??

**Sri Hanuman** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 4:57pm

Originally Posted by Omega Supreme

You suck.

Your Koan sucks.

Originally Posted by Omega Supreme

Especially when the system is 95% theoretical and conceptual.

And you just raped like, all of CMA. Especially Taiji. I challange you to Zhan Zhuang.

**Pomplemousse** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 4:58pm

Originally Posted by Soldiermedic

See you can appreciate the "idea" of aikido all you want, this does not make it an applicable mechanism for self defense.

The main ideas behind "style bashing" on bullshido is "does it work?" and "can you train with resistance?"

Aikido fails both of these tests. If your goal is to get off the couch and get the blood flowing, maybe your club is fine. However, if you are taking it for a self defense purpose, you'd be better off running a couple of miles everyday(actually, if your goal is to get off the couch and get your blood flowing, running is probably a better alternative for that too).

What it comes down to is that aikido relies on too much mysticism and hakama envy, and not enough quantifiable evidence of it working to help defend against assault.

I trained in Daito-Ryu aikijitsu, and while from what I've read it was a better school than most, it still left me woefully unprepared for when I finally got into real grappling(judo & bjj).

Thank you for youra reply :D most people tell me Aikido sucks, and when I ask them why they think what they do, they can't explain themselves. So thanks again for giving a legit response

**Vieux Normand** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:02pm

Aikido renders non-French-speakers incapable of spelling "grapefruit" in French.

If OP took some sweaty, ape-like MA, he'd know it was "pamplemousse".

**Pomplemousse** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:05pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

There's a million different threads about all the nuanced reasons that bullies don't like aikido.

>.< Sorry!

**Permalost** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:20pm

Here's some links:

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch...p/t-92834.html
From Vorpal in this one: " Low percentage techniques practiced in a compliant manner against unrealistic attacks (holy crap, this guy is running full speed at me and is about to grab my wrist!)."

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch...p/t-76117.html

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55865

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch.../t-105404.html

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch...p/t-25086.html

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=116912

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115441

**traversnz** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:23pm

Aikido as is commonly practised (read 99.99999%, regardles of what anyone tells you that they train the real) is it own worst enemy. As Omega put it (politely for him), a lot of it is theoretical bullshit that is irrelevant until you have the physical training to make it work. Throw in the over-publicised philosophy, and you tend to get 2 types of aikidoka - those who have never studied anything and want to spend their time justifying themselves ather than hard training, and fat mid-life crisis sufferers who want to feel good about themselves without putting in the effort.
F*ck - can't count. There are 3 types - add in the japanophiles. The fucktards think they are learning something deeply profound and spiritual, becasue they learn things in a new language for them. These peopel are also the most likely to have wallhanger weapons, facial acne and the enitre Seagal back-catalogue.

(Look at my style field - I train in aikido. I have my own reasons for doing so. I can never get over the first national seminar I went to - first partner asked me not to grip so hard as he had a sore wrist. Next training partner asked me to tone it down as aikido is not about trying to hurt each other).

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:26pm

Originally Posted by traversnz

Aikido as is commonly practised (read 99.99999%, regardles of what anyone tells you that they train the real) is it own worst enemy. As Omega put it (politely for him), a lot of it is theoretical bullshit that is irrelevant until you have the physical training to make it work. Throw in the over-publicised philosophy, and you tend to get 2 types of aikidoka - those who have never studied anything and want to spend their time justifying themselves ather than hard training, and fat mid-life crisis sufferers who want to feel good about themselves without putting in the effort.
F*ck - can't count. There are 3 types - add in the japanophiles. The fucktards think they are learning something deeply profound and spiritual, becasue they learn things in a new language for them. These peopel are also the most likely to have wallhanger weapons, facial acne and the enitre Seagal back-catalogue.

(Look at my style field - I train in aikido. I have my own reasons for doing so. I can never get over the first national seminar I went to - first partner asked me not to grip so hard as he had a sore wrist. Next training partner asked me to tone it down as aikido is not about trying to hurt each other).

You forgot the fourth type. The person that angrily explains how all other <insert art > sucks, but the one they study is hardcore.

**traversnz** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:31pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

You forgot the fourth type. The person that angrily explains how all other <insert art > sucks, but the one they study is hardcore.

You're right - told you I couldn't count. Comes from getting thrown on my head from doing judo for 20 years.

Must explain why I can never win a debate against an aikidoka, yet strangely their theories don't pan out into practise sometimes?

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:32pm

I'm always fucking polite. Kiss my ass.

**Pomplemousse** · Posted On: 1/15/2013 5:41pm

Originally Posted by traversnz

Aikido as is commonly practised (read 99.99999%, regardles of what anyone tells you that they train the real) is it own worst enemy. As Omega put it (politely for him), a lot of it is theoretical bullshit that is irrelevant until you have the physical training to make it work. Throw in the over-publicised philosophy, and you tend to get 2 types of aikidoka - those who have never studied anything and want to spend their time justifying themselves ather than hard training, and fat mid-life crisis sufferers who want to feel good about themselves without putting in the effort.
F*ck - can't count. There are 3 types - add in the japanophiles. The fucktards think they are learning something deeply profound and spiritual, becasue they learn things in a new language for them. These peopel are also the most likely to have wallhanger weapons, facial acne and the enitre Seagal back-catalogue.

(Look at my style field - I train in aikido. I have my own reasons for doing so. I can never get over the first national seminar I went to - first partner asked me not to grip so hard as he had a sore wrist. Next training partner asked me to tone it down as aikido is not about trying to hurt each other).

Thank you sir :D I'm glad I don't own wall hanger weapons, have facial acne, or the entire Seagal back-catalogue