Relson Gracie certified Fake Black Belt Name Roberto Scoca

[Raving&Drooling]

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/member.php?u=91450

Mr. Scoca has an account here (spent less than an hour total on it though). Would it be a bad idea to ask him if he would like to talk to us on here? If there's a reliable way to email him directly without going through the Titans MMA site, though, I haven't found it yet.

Or maybe billythepunk's club owner would be willing to post?

Also yeah all I can find about Ty Hatfield is that certificate on his FB signed by Al Case.

[itwasntme]

Interesting that i find no mention whatsoever of BJJ per se, or Pedro Sauer on Ty Hatfields Fb or school website.


https://www.facebook.com/tyronhatfield

http://www.mountainwestjiu-jitsu.com...ur-instructor/

He also isn't 'friends' with anyone with a first name of Roberto or Carlos Hernandez.

Did you contact TyRon to ask what his comments may be on these statements made, presumably, under his name?

[bjjudge]

We received some information that this guy Roberto Scoca taught taekwondo and aiki jiujitsu to kids and used to call his team MMA TIGERS in 2009, we are going to post a picture of him with a taekwondo kimono

[bjjudge]

Roberto Scoca in the left with a taekwondo kimono

[Rock Ape]

So what ?

The guy was/is involved in TKD, explain to me what your last post proves, exactly ?

[Sam Browning]

I think they are trying to establish the basic facts of his professional martial arts teaching career, and indicate that he was teaching another completely different art as of 2009. The question then becomes to establish when he claims he received his BBJ belt, and when he began to teach BJJ professionally. Please carry on.

[Rock Ape]

I think they are trying to establish the basic facts of his professional martial arts teaching career, and indicate that he was teaching another completely different art as of 2009. The question then becomes to establish when he claims he received his BBJ belt, and when he began to teach BJJ professionally. Please carry on.

Understood Sam, thanks for the clarification.

[It is Fake]

That's VERY interesting. I'll find it later, but there was a huge thread on the American Top Team Affiliate program.People were saying it could lead to people taking their tiered training seminars and make specious claims like the old Gracie Jiujitsu video course fiasco.

Could this be the case?

[bjjudge]

http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighter...gracie-profile

Official List of Carlson Gracie’s Black Belts

Note to all readers:
This list was written by Master Carlson Gracie himself before he passed as a way to prevent charlatans or confused people from using his name to promote themselves or any interested party. The list was released in several BJJ newspapers and other media streams at the time. It is not a list made by BJJ Heroes or any other entity and is pretty conclusive. If you have “fantasies” about someone that you think got the black belt from Master Carlson and he is not on the list, he was not a Carlson black belt, get over it!

Aaron Laponte
Alberto dos Santos
Alexandre Nascimento de Oliveira
Alexandre Macedo
Alexandre Derizans
Allan Goes
Amaury Bitetti
André Mendes
André Pederneiras
Anselmo Montenegro
Antônio Cláudio Correia Leite Buchaul
Antônio Gadelha “Tony Malone”
Antônio Ricardo Bittencourt Cavalcanti
Antonio Ricardo Jardim Liborio
Antônio ‘Tuninho” Rodrigues
Armando “Maninho” Alves Gonçalves Filho
André Mendes
Arthur Vírgilio Neto
Ary Galo
Bráulio Carsalade
Cassio Cardoso
Carley Gracie (Brother)
Carlos “Penão” Alexandre Conceição
Carlos Antônio Rosado
Carlos “Bagana”
Carlos Henrique “Caíque” Vieira Cavalcanti Gomes de Oliveira
Carlos Rollyson
Carlson Gracie Júnior
Carlson Guimaraes
Cássio Cardoso
Christian Kennedy Grandi
Clayton de Souza
Clóvis de Souza
Crézio de Souza
Daniel Cristoph
Djalma José de Santana Filho
Edyr Moreira da Silva “Monge”
Edson Carvalho “Baiano”
Elair Gilberto da Silva Reis
Élcio Figueiredo
Fábio Macieira
Felipe Fígalo Barbosa
Fernando Carlos “Nutri-Baby” Carvalho da Silva
Fernando “Pinduka” Melo Guimarães
Fernando Rosenthal
Francisco “Grego” Trivelas
Francisco “Toco” Albuquerque Neto
Gustavo Gussem
Gutenberg Mello
Henrique Chvaicer
Isaias De Souza
Francisco “Grego” Trivelas
Jerônimo Dix-Huit Rosado Ventura
João Antônio Fernandes Filho
José de Oliveira
José Eduardo Vieira Cavalcanti Gomes de Oliveira
José Mário Sperry
Júlio César “Foca” Nunes
Léo D’Ilha
Luis Fernando “Nando” Da Costa
Luís Carlos “Manimal” Mateus
Luiz “Bebeo” Duarte
Luís Carlos Vallois
Luís Cláudio Isaías de Souza
Luís Fernando “Nando” Costa
Manoel Maria “Maneco” Cardoso Neto
Marcel Laguna Duque Estrada
Marcelo Allonso Duque Novais
Marcelo Alonso
Marcelo Pache
Marcelo Procópio
Marcelo “Bocão”
Marcelo Saporito
Marcelo Tadeu Domigues de Oliveira
Marco Aurélio Kühner de Oliveira
Marco Aurélio Lisboa Valladares
Marcos “Parrumpinha” Da Matta
Marcus Vinícius de Macedo Soares
Marcus “Conan” Vinícius Figueiredo da Silveira Júnior
Mário Cupertino
Marvin Swhab
Mauricio “Saddam”
Miguel Kelner
Miguel Monteiro de Carvalho
Murilo Bustamante
Orlando Saraiva
Oswaldo “Paquetá” Gomes da Rosa
Oswaldo Viana
Otávio Augusto “Peixotinho” de Oliveira
Paulo “Mamão” de Albuquerque Martins Pereira Filho
Paulo Leite Filho “Paulão”
Pedro Paulo de Secco Freire
Renato Tavares
Ricardo de La Riva Goded
Ricardo Jucá Santos
Ricardo Luis Moraes “Rey” Diogo
Ricardo Luiz Perrone
Ricardo “Kiko” Velloso
Rocyan Gracie (brother)
Rodrigo Medeiros
Sérgio Abimerhy
Sérgio “Bolão” de Souza
Sérgio Íris de Almeida
Wallid Farid Ismail
Walter “Soldado” da Silva
Walter Guimarães
Wander de Souza
Vauvernargues Xavier Vicentini
Vitor Belfort