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    All law enforcement settings are not created equally! :) So for me: to quell a disturbance, to prevent a person from commiting imminent harm to the officer, himself or others, to defend yourself when deadly force is aplicable, to prevent the escape of an inmate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    All law enforcement settings are not created equally! :) So for me: to quell a disturbance, to prevent a person from commiting imminent harm to the officer, himself or others, to defend yourself when deadly force is aplicable, to prevent the escape of an inmate.
    Thanks mate.

    The last one makes be chuckle only from my experiences as a Prison Officer, I'd have loved to have fucking shot a few of them fuckers :-)
    "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Ape View Post
    Thanks for the clarification as I read your post to basically refer to anyone deploying without the intention of discharging.

    There's an obvious difference between deploying to ready one's self (but not pointing or aiming) and the act of physical aiming.

    From a civilian perspective (I realize you're asking for an LEO perspective) if you're CCW certified and pull your fire arm, this would be considered "brandishing" However, I would expect an LEO to be in a position to legally draw his/her weapon under certain situations (in readiness) but the weapon isn't aimed at the individual concerned.

    LEO could you confirm the above ?
    As long as you have probable cause. As the situation de-escilates, you always can de-escilate as appropriate.
    Combatives training log.

    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

    Drum thread

    Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Ape View Post
    Thanks mate.

    The last one makes be chuckle only from my experiences as a Prison Officer, I'd have loved to have fucking shot a few of them fuckers :-)
    Yeah, inmates don't even walk close to the fence because they know their is an officer sitting their with his finger on the trigger, just itching for it.
    Combatives training log.

    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

    Drum thread

    Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.

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