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    Quote Originally Posted by cereus View Post
    I, for one look forward to the 101st blind airborne with their specially trained guide dogs. The 5th wheelchair artillery. Perhaps this will give a new meaning to special forces?
    This makes no sense. Universal service doesn't preclude merit based evaluations.
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    All these efforts and excuses to infringe on and chip away at our essential freedoms should be recognized as such and treated accordingly. I really don't believe that the people raising this issue care one iota about soldiers or their welfare. They have an agenda.
    More law enforcement personel die from taking their own lives than in line duty. I am sure this figures into the conversation. NRA has nothing to do with those deaths whatsoever.
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    I'm curious how you get from this:
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    Oh though it's politically non-viable, I'm totally against all-volunteer, that's one of the reasons there so much PTSD and suicides - a tiny group does tour after tour. And I think that is one of the contributing factors to US willingness to go to war. So few suffer; most people don't have any connection to the wars.
    I'm for a national draft with no exclusions for anyone.
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    My statement about universal service has nothing to do with PTSD
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    I'm curious how you get from this:


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    Sorry if I was unclear. When you mentioned forced service as being in my view subject to less PTSD? That was what I was responding to; that isn't the issue. Everyone who serves in war scenarios has at least the possibility of PTSD (some cultures think everyone is damaged), it wouldn't be relevant in my view if the individual had been drafted or not.
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