2/10/2013 8:33am, #121
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Well at least it confirms that I was actually there.
The guy doesn't even get his hooks in? He's not a master of anything.
For the record, Antonio hasn't sent any of the messages that I asked for on facebook to get the fight organised, I've checked with my manager, he hasn't sent anything to him either.
Antonios wife was the only person filming that day, so This 'Respect72' is very likely either Antonio or her. In my opinion that makes her as guilty as him of fraud.
2/10/2013 9:34am, #122
0:01 - Blue Belt Enters in Seoi Nage - His arm enters in below the elbow on the forearm and he steps back into the throw.
0:07 - Blue Belt lets way too much space in Side Control
0:09 - Brown Belt instead of using the epic amount of space to hip escape, he shoves the blue belt with his arms
0:12 - Brown Belt elects for a very loose reverse triangle
0:16 - Brown Belt Lets go with his hands, leaving the loose triangle as his only control. Blue Belt elects not to posture
0:23 - Brown Belt Spins to the back on his knees with only belt control. Blue Belt elects to just sit there and not granby or stand up
0:26 - Rear Naked Choke with no hooks or lower body control. Blue Belt doesn't protect his neck or hand fight.
2/10/2013 1:48pm, #123
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2/10/2013 1:51pm, #124
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Get your facts right, speak to Mark Phung and i think it will confirm that neither Antonio or his wife have had any part in this stupid discussion.
2/10/2013 2:09pm, #125
2/10/2013 2:42pm, #126
Originally Posted by Plasma
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Respect72, could you set the video to public again? If you're using it as proof of Antonio's grappling ability there is no harm in having a fellow instructor give his opinion.
2/10/2013 2:59pm, #127
2/10/2013 3:12pm, #128
State who you are or all your posting privileges will be removed.
2/13/2013 11:02pm, #129
At the moment a lot of the back and forward appears to be happening on Youtube Video comments of the "tapped to mount" video of Antonio's MMA fight: http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=hzxrDGNKsuQ (accessed on 14/02/13 1:53pm +10GMT)
For clarity: Dominic Heydon is GingerNinja who is shown in the video as he went to the gym to test it out as per his written account.
"Dominic Heydon 4 days ago
Fantastic news. I really don't think I have said anything disrespectful about your wife at all. Please get in contact with my manager Mark Phung on Facebook and he will sort out the finer details such as a decent show and a suitable escrow to hold our money. Please also confirm this is actually you by shooting me a Facebook message and we'll get the ball rolling."
" Antonio Estepanian 4 days ago
Fantastic! Let's be professionals and settle this in the octagon and show our skills. I will contact Mark Phung on facebook. Thanks for your response. It's gonna be fun, lol."
'Wolf Pack' on you tube appears to be "Respect72" here?
" Wolf Pack 4 days ago
Dominic, are you ok? No seriously! He has already confirmed in writing to Mark Phung on Facebook. Oh and a video has been posted of you and Antonio, with you getting reverse chocked. For good measure, i made sure i also added it to Bullshido. It's a place where a bunch of little babies go and don't know what they are talking about."
" Dominic Heydon 3 days ago
<Snip>...Wolfpack you either are Antonio or his Wife. Antonio has not contacted myself or Mark on Facebook. He's a liar and a coward and a poor excuse for a fighter. Despite my shortcomings at least I will fight"
"Antonio Estepanian 3 days ago
We have contacted Mark Phung and been very respectful. All the certifcates and a full account has been posted to him. I will leave it like this. For the record, I can't be responsible for other people's actions but can tell you that i have not been on any of the websites myself and cannot control the stupidity that surrounds this issue." (emphasis added)Daniel: I don't know if I know enough karate.
Miyagi: Feeling correct.
Daniel: You sure know how to make a guy feel confident.
Miyagi: You trust the quality of what you know, not quantity.
2/14/2013 3:12am, #130
This fight is never going to happen.
I find it ironic that whomever Respect72 / Wolf Pack is, they make reference to Bullshido in that way but then cry themselves, like getting chocked out isn't something every fighter can expect within their career ? Big fucking deal, like getting chocked out proves anything.
From this thread's perspective, one things for sure, Antonio is a chump who, when challenged over his certification ... FAILED at every opportunity to provide any evidence to support his rank.
When challenged over his rank, he FAILED at every opportunity to speak up for himself, preferring to allow some dipshit to talk on his behalf (or quite possibly, was posting himself but didn't have the balls to admit it).
Either way, he's chump.
Now, unless the question of his rank is answered, clearly, succinctly without walls of bullshit text, then as far as we're concerned Antonio Estepanian's integrity and honesty as a fighter and a person is highly questionable, and this thread will remain in the public domain to allow people who choose to do some research on prospective instructors/fighters, to make an informed decision on weather Estepanian is worth their time and effort.
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