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    Quote Originally Posted by catfishaggie View Post
    You do know that there are plenty of scholarship players in the NCAA playing football that never touched a pigskin until high school, and some of them not even until their junior year. You don't really need a "lifetime" to run into or away from somebody. Yes, I did break football down to it's core elements. I spent from the age of five until I was 17 playing the game that is a religion down here in Texas. The only thing that makes football complicated or seem that way is all the schemes. Get out of here with that fucking analogy.

    Baseball's history is full of players that just came into it and never "trained" at it all when they did play. Shoeless Joe didn't start playing until he got a job at a mill and it wasn't that long after that he was asked to play for Chicago. Walter Johnson, one of the greatest pitchers ever, same thing. Babe Ruth was drunk most of the time and used to chug a soda for every hot dog he would ate, he was known to eat a dozen in a sitting. How the **** does that proves baseball takes intense training to be good? I just named three of the greatest players to ever play the game and I never touched the Negro League players who due to shitty attitudes never had a chance until they were older to actually get a glove and ball.

    Where the **** is Ty Cobb when you need him?
    I see what you are saying. I played football from 3rd grade to 12th grade. My step Dad from san angelo and my Dad from Indiana. I played football and basketball like a religion. I also played baseball from 3rd grade until 9th. Your football example, I do not agree with. The difference in size and talent from level to level is incomparable. Sure lots of guys pick up the sport in high school but how many of those guys make it to the league? Not as many as can pick up a fighting art and go pro. As far as your baseball argument, I agree yes they are the greats but if you honestly think baseball's level of talent and athleticism isn't far surpassed their time then your crazy. I Agree with to some point that anyone can be a natural at any sport. I just think it's easier and more common in MMA. I agree with you on one thing 100% though... Where the **** is Ty Cobb when you need him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wetware View Post
    Those frigging suck. And yeah, they're worse than just weights in my opinion. I'm guessing it's because your frigging partner can't hold still. He's got his own balance issues he instinctively tries to correct.

    Edit: Oh... in a fireman's carry. Never did it that way. Always piggyback.
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    Is it different than the dead weight of actual weights?
    Wetware already answered it but yes it's different. While your are doing squats with someone in a fireman's carry they naturally try to balance even when trying to be motionless. It's really good training though. My legs feel like jello after tonight. My arms are banged up from blocking too. We sparred 2min rounds for the last half hour punching only.
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    Damnit, y'all are giving me the crave... gym is on break until Jan 7th. Just doing calisthenics alone in my aprtment gets boring
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    There's not much left to it though, is there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Is it different than the dead weight of actual weights?
    Actual weights have the benefit of being proportioned on both sides. So you will usually have the bar over your sholder with say two 45lb plates on each side. As you lower and stand up, the weights don't shift.

    When you put someone in the fireman's carry, you will have the weight distributed all over the place, more on one side, and not up on the top of your shoulders. This kills your stabilizer muscles, which don't usually get a good workout. It also causes you to work some of the core muscles more because you don't have a bar balancing on your shoulder, which screws up your proper form.

    TL;DR: Yeah, way different.
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    Way to turn a sarcastic YMAS statement into multiple useful posts.

    What the hell is the matter with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Way to turn a sarcastic YMAS statement into multiple useful posts.

    What the hell is the matter with you?

    All the time, at work I tell people to do some squats or some pushups. I am usually half way sarcastic. One because I don't believe they will do it. On the other hand, if they do, it will be good for them.

    On a side note, I do squats and pushups regularly at work! I take my sarcasm seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    All the time, at work I tell people to do some squats or some pushups. I am usually half way sarcastic. One because I don't believe they will do it. On the other hand, if they do, it will be good for them.

    On a side note, I do squats and pushups regularly at work! I take my sarcasm seriously.
    Time saver (?) most workplaces have enough room for.

    Partner up.

    Then go max-reps on combination pushup/squats in wheelbarrow position. Then switch 'em up, repeat.

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    Way to turn a sarcastic YMAS statement into multiple useful posts.

    What the hell is the matter with you?
    I haff my vays, Mister Rabbit.
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