221416 Bullies, 3870 online  
  • Register
Our Sponsors:

Results 51 to 60 of 102
Page 6 of 11 FirstFirst ... 23456 78910 ... LastLast
Sponsored Links Spacer Image
  1. patfromlogan is offline
    patfromlogan's Avatar

    Heavyweight

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Hilo Island of Hawaii
    Posts
    8,850

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 5:51pm

    supporting member
     Style: Kyokushinkai / Kajukenbo

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I have an idea how the US could save a little money, and it's not cleaning up the welfare rolls, unless one considers capitalism and it's unholy bond to the military industrial complex welfare for the rich.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	military numbers.jpg 
Views:	18 
Size:	9.1 KB 
ID:	14270  

    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
  2. Cullion is offline
    Cullion's Avatar

    Everybody was Kung Fu fighting

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Oxford, UK
    Posts
    6,543

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 6:06pm

    supporting member
     Style: Tai Chi

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    You could certainly save money there, but it wouldn't be enough.
    !!RENT SPACE HERE FOR 10 VBUCKS PER LINE PER MONTH!!

    !! PM ME FOR SPEEDY SERVICE !!

    Sponsored by our first customer: Repulsive Monkey



    I <3 Sirc.
  3. mike321 is online now

    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    California
    Posts
    1,434

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 6:11pm


     Style: kenpo, Wrestling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    For The Devil

    Quote Originally Posted by patfromlogan View Post
    I have an idea how the US could save a little money, and it's not cleaning up the welfare rolls, unless one considers capitalism and it's unholy bond to the military industrial complex welfare for the rich.
    Some defense cuts would be great especially with some intense pressure to eat the cuts while maintaining the same defense posture. (This is to avoid the typical blackmail where a department cuts vital service first.)
  4. legomepanda is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Illinois. Yay.
    Posts
    440

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 6:22pm


     Style: grappling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I agree, fewer officers the better. But the bulk of the defense spending fat is in the waste. Efficient spending I believe is the answer.
  5. patfromlogan is offline
    patfromlogan's Avatar

    Heavyweight

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Hilo Island of Hawaii
    Posts
    8,850

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 6:59pm

    supporting member
     Style: Kyokushinkai / Kajukenbo

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    what defense posture? Over 100,000 soldiers in Germany and Japan? WTF for? $920,000,000 a day for years in Iraq? WTF for? http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/...rica-pentagon#
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
  6. legomepanda is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Illinois. Yay.
    Posts
    440

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 7:38pm


     Style: grappling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by patfromlogan View Post
    what defense posture? Over 100,000 soldiers in Germany and Japan? WTF for? $920,000,000 a day for years in Iraq? WTF for? http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/...rica-pentagon#
    That's why the military's in Japan and Germany. To maintain the posture. Global force. For good.
  7. mike321 is online now

    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    California
    Posts
    1,434

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 8:39pm


     Style: kenpo, Wrestling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    For The Devil

    Quote Originally Posted by patfromlogan View Post
    what defense posture? Over 100,000 soldiers in Germany and Japan? WTF for? $920,000,000 a day for years in Iraq? WTF for? http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/...rica-pentagon#
    Just to start. If you don't make them maintain the status quo they will pull the bureaucrat game and cut essentials first: ammo, enlisted pay, veteran care, aircraft maintenance etc. I am saying make leaders cut fat while maintaining status quo or find ones that will. Then, (as in step 2) look at what our commitments and global strategy is. I am not advocating maintaining the current global strategy indefinitely.
  8. legomepanda is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Illinois. Yay.
    Posts
    440

    Posted On:
    12/28/2012 9:39pm


     Style: grappling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by mike321 View Post
    Just to start. If you don't make them maintain the status quo they will pull the bureaucrat game and cut essentials first: ammo, enlisted pay, veteran care, aircraft maintenance etc. I am saying make leaders cut fat while maintaining status quo or find ones that will. Then, (as in step 2) look at what our commitments and global strategy is. I am not advocating maintaining the current global strategy indefinitely.
    When has military pay ever decreased? How are you going to get people to spend less without giving them less money? Especially when next years budget depends on how much you spend this year.
  9. mike321 is online now

    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    California
    Posts
    1,434

    Posted On:
    12/29/2012 5:22pm


     Style: kenpo, Wrestling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    For The Devil

    Quote Originally Posted by legomepanda View Post
    When has military pay ever decreased? How are you going to get people to spend less without giving them less money? Especially when next years budget depends on how much you spend this year.
    You decrease enlisted pay through inflation/pay freezes and reducing enlisted promotion opportunities, or reduce other benefits. Or you can do a force reduction. I would give them less money; I just would not let them off the hook for any responsibilities yet. Reducing defense obligations is step 2. As far as basing budgets on spending all of your current budget, I would eliminate that. Surpluses should mean you stay on board when actual defense ( as in size of the military) cuts happen. I am also assuming it is possible to keep our nation as safe as it is now with a reduced military budget. I strongly suspect this is the case.
  10. Cullion is offline
    Cullion's Avatar

    Everybody was Kung Fu fighting

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Oxford, UK
    Posts
    6,543

    Posted On:
    12/29/2012 5:26pm

    supporting member
     Style: Tai Chi

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Your deficit is currently bigger than your defence budget. You could completely disband the whole military and still be sliding deeper into debt on the basis of unfunded entitlements. You all realise this, yes ? What next?
    !!RENT SPACE HERE FOR 10 VBUCKS PER LINE PER MONTH!!

    !! PM ME FOR SPEEDY SERVICE !!

    Sponsored by our first customer: Repulsive Monkey



    I <3 Sirc.
Page 6 of 11 FirstFirst ... 23456 78910 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Powered by vBulletin™© contact@vbulletin.com vBulletin Solutions, Inc. 2011 All rights reserved.