Mil/LEO opinions please

[Rock Ape]

Guys,

Would you be kind enough to look over the basic material I've included below and let me know if I'm missing any key aspects to the following lessons: (I haven't covered immediate action drills for malfunctions yet)


Lesson 1 –
In the beginning:
Introduction to the weapon system
Normal Safety Precautions
Rules of Safe Handling
Holster and carriage position
PPE

Lesson 2 –
Marksmanship Principles:
- 1. Position and Hold
Hands, Feet and body alignment relative to target
Life Saver
-2. Pointing the weapon naturally and without undue effort
Stance, Hands and knees
Center-line; Development of muscle memory for instinctive weapon deployment

Lesson 3 –
Marksmanship Principles:
-3. Sight alignment and picture
Coloration between the rear and front sights, and your target
Memorizing the sight picture – Where to shoot
Center-line; making acquisition of your sight picture instinctive
Both eyes vs. one eye.

Lesson 4 –
Weapon deployment: (linear - front)
LIFE SAVER
Hand positioning
Release and deployment through the center-line
Ready/alert position
Observation
Holstering the weapon

Lesson 5 –
Marksmanship Principles:
-4. Shot release and follow-through
Breathing
Trigger slack/pressure
Shot release and trigger control
Understanding recoil
Sight re-alignment

Lesson 6 -
Cleaning and maintenance

[tgace]

How about the actual dynamics of a gunfight, the physiological and sensory effects of combat stress, cover and concealment etc? Pistol fights are a shoot till hes down or fleeing affair.

As you mentioned..issues like emergency reloads, malfunctions etc. should be included.

I like to cover a basic engagement sequence...

Draw
Engage (include movement to cover or cqb technique if possible)
Reloads/malfunction
Scan and breathe
Sul/360 scan
Tactical reload
Re-holster

Covering what you should do once the opponent is down is important too and differs depending on your role. Civilian self defense differs from military or law enforcement applications. I would be considering approaches for handcuffing...others would not.

Hope that helps.

[Rock Ape]

Thanks brother, appreciated

[Diesel_tke]

I'm sure you already know all this but:

I guess somewhere towards the begining you are going to go over emptying and reloading? When I first started, we spent hours standing on the fireline with .38 revolvers. Dry-firing, then empty onto the ground, then re-loading from speed loaders, and repeat. Getting the muscle memory to be able to do it quickly. Also reinforcing to empy the spent shells on the ground, and not collecting them to put in your pocket.

We watched videos where cops, who were put under pressure had fired all their rounds, then emptied the brass into their pockets before reloading, in the middle of a fire fight!

Looks like you are focusing mostly on Marksmanship, correct? So I assume you are not getting into weapon retention or how to deploy when someone is coming at you with a knife, stick, ect.?

[Rock Ape]

I'm sure you already know all this but:

I guess somewhere towards the begining you are going to go over emptying and reloading? When I first started, we spent hours standing on the fireline with .38 revolvers. Dry-firing, then empty onto the ground, then re-loading from speed loaders, and repeat. Getting the muscle memory to be able to do it quickly. Also reinforcing to empy the spent shells on the ground, and not collecting them to put in your pocket.

Yeh point well made mate, the first six lessons focus on dry training with an emphasis on marksmanship theory. The next series of lessons begin with loading, unloading and making the weapon safe. Then magazine filling. This leads up to a Weapon Handling Test (WHT) where the student is required to demonstrate all of the practical skills (all dry) before being certificated as fit to handle and operate that particular weapon.

The final series of lessons include malfunctions and immediate actions, then focus specifically on actual marksmanship (if it were a rifle, the principles of zeroing would also be included)

Looks like you are focusing mostly on Marksmanship, correct? So I assume you are not getting into weapon retention or how to deploy when someone is coming at you with a knife, stick, ect.?

Correct, this series of lessons won't include those skills.

This whole process results from a potential role change for me within the company I work for. I'm still not entirely sold on the idea of becoming a trainer as it will involve overseas work (as we can't teach weapons skills of this type in the UK.) however part of the process is preping a series of lessons for delivery. Kinda sucking eggs really.

[Diesel_tke]

This whole process results from a potential role change for me within the company I work for. I'm still not entirely sold on the idea of becoming a trainer as it will involve overseas work (as we can't teach weapons skills of this type in the UK.) however part of the process is preping a series of lessons for delivery. Kinda sucking eggs really.

Sounds like a lot of fun! Good luck with it.

[MarJoe]

A pratical app, 1st fire X number of rounds on the targets. Now take the group on a little run and excerise with no rest put them back on the firing to see the effect of accelated heart and breathing effects their shooting. Joe

[Rock Ape]

A pratical app, 1st fire X number of rounds on the targets. Now take the group on a little run and excerise with no rest put them back on the firing to see the effect of accelated heart and breathing effects their shooting. Joe

Thanks, but that's not within the scope of these lessons which are aimed at people who have never shot before.