A Prayer

**Eddie Hardon** · Posted On: 1/09/2013 3:04pm

Clearly Alex Jones is quite, quite Mad. Perhaps he should return to Wales....

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 1/09/2013 4:36pm

Well, there is that rift in Cardiff...

**W. Rabbit** · Posted On: 1/09/2013 4:43pm

I just kept wanting to see Jones get KTFO by Piers.

Talk about the ratings that could have been.

**Devil** · Posted On: 1/10/2013 10:11am

So, I've been pretty confident since this happened that no new gun legislation will make it through the House. I still believe that to be true.

When the executive order talk started, I began trying to educate myself because I was unclear about the extent of the President's powers in this regard. After reading what I can on the subject, these are the conclusions I'm drawing. Anyone with more insight on the subject, feel free to comment or offer corrections:

Barry can't confiscate anyone's ****.

Barry can't ban the sale of "assault" weapons, or any other weapons.

Barry can't ban any magazines.

Barry may be able to stop importation of some military style weapons.

Barry can act to more aggressively enforce existing laws and more aggressively prosecute law breakers - ie, people who lie on background checks, etc.

Barry can strengthen the background system that is currently in place.

Barry can force government agencies to share more information regarding mental health.

Ho, hum. Sounds like I can go back to playing Madden now. Nothing to see here.

**Devil** · Posted On: 1/10/2013 11:48am

Forgot one. Barry can't close the gun show "loophole"

**DarkPhoenix** · Posted On: 1/10/2013 12:22pm

It would be great if they actually enforce the laws they have in place, rather than **** with the law abiding citizens out there. I bet that would cut the overwhelming *snicker* gun violence.

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 1/10/2013 1:37pm

Seriously, just make illegal possession of a firearm a lifetime offense and see what would happen.

**Mr. Machette** · Posted On: 1/10/2013 6:13pm

Originally Posted by DerAuslander

Seriously, just make illegal possession of a firearm a lifetime offense and see what would happen.

A little draconian, but I like the spirit of your proposal.

Seriously though. D.A.'s need to stop dropping the weapons charges when offering plea bargains.

What good are laws if not enforced? It's like a double cop out.

A) Good people don't need laws and bad people don't follow them so what good are laws?

Which gets worse when;

B) Bad people don't get punished for the law they broke, so what good are laws?

At this rate we might as well just start sewing nail studded tire rubber to football pads and shooting cross bows at each other while tear assing around the desert in dune buggies.

**Devil** · Posted On: 1/10/2013 11:13pm

So, here's where I think we're going based on the hints coming from the gun nazi meetings going on.

Biden's group will throw a hail Mary. Barry is going to push Congress for an assault weapon ban, high cap magazine ban and universal background checks knowing full well none of those options have a prayer.

Then they'll punt. Barry will do what he can, which is take some token measures to tighten up the laws on the books.

They knew exactly how this would go down within two days of the school shooting. Democrats knew they could grandstand without getting ass raped in the next Congressional election because no new laws would come out of this that they could be blamed for. They could take the opportunity to pander to their base and they can safely blame the continued proliferation of evil guns on Republicans.

This will kill any serious gun debate in Congress for another decade or until Democrats manage to take control of the House and Senate, which is unlikely at least until the districts are redrawn 8 years from now.

That doesn't mean our gun rights won't get completely **** on at some point in the future, but I don't think that day is here yet. Get 'em while they're hot.