A Prayer

**mike321** · Posted On: 12/25/2012 2:46pm

Originally Posted by adskibullus

My cousin served in Kosovo peace keeping when Yugoslavia broke up so yes they did intervene.

Also the Soviet bloc kept that neighborhood stable for years. I don't approve of their methods but spare us scary America stories.

**Nefron** · Posted On: 12/25/2012 3:03pm

Kosovo would be perfectly stable without the NATO intervention.

**adskibullus** · Posted On: 12/25/2012 3:08pm

Originally Posted by Nefron

Kosovo would be perfectly stable without the NATO intervention.

Before or after the Serbs had wiped all the Albanians off of the face of the earth?

**Nefron** · Posted On: 12/25/2012 3:17pm

Originally Posted by adskibullus

Before or after the Serbs had wiped all the Albanians off of the face of the earth?

After.

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 12/26/2012 5:03am

Originally Posted by Volya

If you can get bulletproof bags so easily, what's stopping another crazy person from buying a heap of them and then modifying them into a bulletproof suit before going on a shooting spree?

All our body armour requires licensing here too.

Body armor requires licensing? Man, I thought Australia would be hardcore due to it being a desert and former penal colony, but I guess it got all gentrified and now they have to putz around with a man's body armor.

My thought on the "bulletproof" backpacks...if you hypothetically were in an active shooter scenario, you could hole up in a room and bench your handgun on the backpack and cover the door. That way you'd have some support but also a certain amount of ballistic protection.

Not sure if it's useful for kids but maybe could be used by a trained adult.

**Vorpal** · Posted On: 12/26/2012 9:03am

Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon

Ok let 'em buy guns and self loading rifles.

Just don't let them buy bullets. Simple.

"Let them". LOL at serf mentality.

**Mr. Machette** · Posted On: 12/26/2012 12:12pm

Originally Posted by Bling Bling

You Americans need to take example from Canada. They're handling this gun situation much better.

You mean the gun registry that everybody ignored so it was ultimately canceled after wasting millions of dollars?

Or how about importing Chinese weapons that are banned in the U.S.?

Yeah, they're doing a great job up there...

**submessenger** · Posted On: 12/26/2012 12:38pm

Originally Posted by Mr. Machette

You mean the gun registry that everybody ignored so it was ultimately canceled after wasting millions of dollars?

Yeah, there's no way a gun registry would ever be misused: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new...map/index.html

**doofaloofa** · Posted On: 12/26/2012 12:41pm

So

How many guns does a chap need?

A shot gun/pistol for home/self defence

A bolt action hunting rifle

Does a patriot need more than that?

**Mr. Machette** · Posted On: 12/26/2012 1:28pm

Originally Posted by Batman Smells

So

How many guns does a chap need?

A shot gun/pistol for home/self defence

A bolt action hunting rifle

Does a patriot need more than that?

Great question.

MHO is that a RESPONSIBLE gun owner should at least have a 12gauge shotgun for versatility of use and availability of ammo. Even if it's purley a defensive totem that never gets used outside of the practice range.

Different machines have different pros/cons and capabilities. So to be "ready for anything" you may need a variety. You may also want redundancies for un-armed family members in case of extreme civil emergency. (See hurricane Katrina, or L.A. riots)

Usual kit would be a long gun and a handgun for backup. So two for each member of your "posse".

You will also need a LOT of ammo to practice up with for each person. So contrary to "bulk ammo purchases" being a red flag, they are actually neccesary if you want to have any sort of skill with your hardware. (maintaining said skill is part of your responsibility as a gun owner.)

Does that asnwer your question?