Thread: A Prayer
12/15/2012 10:31pm, #11The fool thinks himself immortal,
If he hold back from battle;
But old age will grant him no truce,
Even if spears spare him.
12/15/2012 10:39pm, #12
12/15/2012 10:53pm, #13
Charlotte Bacon, 6 Daniel Barden, 7 Olivia Engel, 6 Josephine Gay, 7 Ana M. Marquez-Greene, 6 Dylan Hockley, 6 Madeleine F. Hsu, 6 Catherine V. Hubbard, 6 Chase Kowalski, 7 Jesse Lewis, 6 James Mattioli, 6 Grace McDonnell, 7 Emilie Parker, 6 Jack Pinto, 6 Noah Pozner, 6 Caroline Previdi, 6 Jessica Rekos, 6 Aveille Richman, 6 Benjamin Wheeler, 6 Allison N. Wyatt, 6 Rachel Davino, 29 Dawn Hochsprung, 47 (principal) Anne Marie Murphy, 52 Lauren Russeau, 30 (substitute teacher) Mary Sherlach, 56 (counselor) Victoria Soto, 27 (teacher)
Here. Now pray.
12/16/2012 2:50am, #14
It seems one side is saying arm the teachers and there's nothing really wrong with the US of A; it's like the nutty 60s California religion,we just breed crazies so we need more armed teachers and 'good' folks carrying, to protect us. The others (me) look at a country that's leading the world in murder, rape, women on psycho drugs, divorce, obesity, suicide, addiction, incarceration and (by a LOT) military spending and see a sick nation that does and creates evil, where 10,000 a year go down with bullets and where no one gives a rat's ass that drone bombing has already killed more than 170 children in Pakistan.
It's a it's a spiritual illness that won't be cured with gun control, better mental healthcare, prayer in fucking schools, or more guns.
Here's a post by John Calvi, a Quaker healer/massager who works with 'normal' trauma victims and torture victims.
"Regarding the school shooting, I just want to say that in 30 years of helping people to heal from trauma, I've never seen a more difficult grief than the loss of a child. It is quite simply the worst. All these parents will now spend lifetimes hoping for good days, that will come later. Grief is not to be rushed, ignored, cheered up, or feared. No explanation holds meaning for now. The seeking for them will be long term. And anyone helping them will need much patience. The rest of us are afraid to imagine what it might feel like, of course. And those of us who knew gun violence or the threat of it early in life are filled with memory and old feelings of terror. I hold these question out to ponder - how do we stop passing the bad penny? Why is America in need of this healing more than any other country?"
Last edited by patfromlogan; 12/16/2012 2:54am at ."Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
12/16/2012 3:00am, #15
12/16/2012 8:18am, #16
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12/16/2012 8:42am, #17
Leads the world in murder?
Doesn't even appear on the first page of chart, because rape is a rarity in the US compared to the rest of the world.
12/16/2012 8:49am, #18
ANy other country?
Hmmm I guess we must ignore all of the middle eastern countries, the problem in Mexico with the gun cartels, China's issues, Africa, Russia, Korea, Thailand, etc etc etc.
Yes, we have problems to fix starting with everyone continually saying our nation is the biggest shithole and doing nothing about it.
12/16/2012 9:07am, #19
12/16/2012 9:16am, #20
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When I saw the thread title, I immediately knew it was Pat.
Now, **** like this always starts the gun debate. I personally don't know what to think. Its very odd to me that a large number of Americans walk around armed, and your gun laws a re very relaxed compared to those here or in Europe.
On the other hand, every second rural home in Bosnia has a weapon. And not a hunting one. The war left behind lots of automatic rifles, hand grenades and even anti tank weapons. A few months ago a boy in my hometown lost his arms when he found and fired a Zolja in his attic.
Its hard to get weapons here legally, and you can't get a licence to carry. Illegally, you can get some serious ****.