Pop quiz, Hot Shot: Who is posing as DerAuslander & posting fake Throwdown videos?

**W. Rabbit** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 3:33pm

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

Xveldin was a weak, but fairly persistent youtube troll back in the day, who, IIRC, strongly advocated MMA

I think it's the other way around....what links the two victims appears to be their TMA background and habit of commenting about it on Youtube.

Xveldin yes is a big troll and appears to have gotten into it with Anons on other sites.

AxelDuel not quite a troll but still a TMAer according to his own comments.

Hence the gag of trolling them right into a hornet's nest.

Vendetta (with a v)....trollface "gotcha" video...Ron Paul rants...

The profile is right there.

**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 3:59pm

As I said, take my comment with a grain of salt, because I really don't recall the details. That I even recall the name is a wonder, and makes me think I should perhaps run a defrag on my brain space. But for what I remember, this dude was really just a harmless teenage moron.

**W. Rabbit** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 4:21pm

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

As I said, take my comment with a grain of salt, because I really don't recall the details. That I even recall the name is a wonder, and makes me think I should perhaps run a defrag on my brain space. But for what I remember, this dude was really just a harmless teenage moron.

I have always taken your comments with a shot of something.

What's sad about this is it really does harm Bullshido in a number of ways, not the least of which are the accusations that Bullshido is doing the smearing, something I don't believe for a moment, but others might.

Now this is funny...I know I've seen THIS video on Bullshido before.

What/when/who is this? Because I can link AxelDuel to comments in this video too:

NSFW

**Permalost** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 4:35pm

Originally Posted by W. Rabbit

What/when/who is this? Because I can link AxelDuel to comments in this video too:

NSFW

That was supposed to be AnnaTvs Omar, but it turned into Osiris vs JFS. Kidspatula is the other girl there, and I think Omar is there too. I believe Stick/Osiris is the one who attacks with the flying kick.

**W. Rabbit** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 4:48pm

Here is a simple test of logic:

If Phrost knows who "AxelDuel" is,

then he knows who "rpg101lol" is,

otherwise the whole thing is a setup, and rpg101lol is a sockpuppet.

Yebin2 1 year ago

@rpg101lol

Axelduel is a joke. I've followed him around. The guy is so anti mma and bullshido it oozes out of his fucking ears. He goes to almost every bullshido vid and talks **** about how he can "beat up bullshido" yet he always says bullshido deletes his posts or bans him so he can't provide proof. I've spoken to Phrost about this guy and the last throwdown that was initiated was in March. Not from AxelDuel. He's just an internet warrior who can't fight.

**Zerstörer90** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 5:22pm

Somewhat related, That Osiris Video has been popping up under a few other different names. Unless this is another alias of JFS.

**W. Rabbit** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 5:35pm

Under those comments there is

Stupid Bruce lee wannabe youtuber DiscoRByrno (http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoRByrno ) owned by MMA guy

UPDATE he uses another username
abyrno29

youtube.com/user/abyrno29

And the response to that video....same trollface meme, different targets...but def a pattern.

Someone (...) is tracking people online, falsely attributing video to them (for whatever original reason), and then blasting it out all over file sharing portals to make sure the videos spread far and wide.

When the target changes names/identities and comes back to Youtube, the comment trolling brings them back out of the woodwork.

Still just a theory.

**submessenger** · Posted On: 12/12/2012 5:46pm

Originally Posted by W. Rabbit

And here is the response to that video....same troll meme, different target.

Not surprising, given the MO of the troll(s) - take other people's vids and upload them to hacked accounts. This one in particular is Hallcyon/Gaylen in the video, and on his account. What's interesting is that in OP's vid, Hallcyon is in the comments calling out Xveldin as owning Mrjustinqqq account. Hallcyon's sometime friend Fakesagan also used an account named Mrjustinqqqq. I went down this rabbit hole for a while. Some seriously fucked up people on the interwebs, that's for sure.

I'm going with Hiro's analysis, this is just everyday trolldrama into which DerAuslander and Bullshido at large have been unfortunately drug.