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    Quote Originally Posted by ChokeAJudoka View Post
    Accomplishment of technique, art, or trick without the presence of significant moral, mental and spiritual attributes constitutes something entirely useless (unless you happen to be a cage fighter).
    Learning how to throw and grapple resisting opponants seems pretty usefull to me, and when I want moral, mental and spiritual guidance my judo trainer is not at the top of my list

    Quote Originally Posted by ChokeAJudoka View Post
    As far as the technique itself goes, well, comparing that Cornish Wrestling video to a video of Kodokan Judoka speaks for itself. To quote an instructor I saw somewhere,"If all you want to do is work hard, you can put on roller skates and stumble around if you want - but this is all about building a Ferrari."
    Those Cornish guys have better judo than me

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    Would you say Mexican and French cuisine are the same because they are both food?
    Give a Mexican and a French person the same ingrediants and the results will be pretty similar
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    I dissagre. Judo is a product of body mechanics, and similar arts are practiced in several cultures

    Check out this Cornish wrestling vid (is that uke goshi at 5.22?)



    or Breton wrestling



    The only parts of judo that are peculliar to Japanese culture is the terminology and the bowing
    He didn't say that all the physics of judo are unique to Japanese martial arts; he said that judo itself comes from Japan, which it does. There's really nothing to disagree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMatt View Post
    He didn't say that all the physics of judo are unique to Japanese martial arts; he said that judo itself comes from Japan, which it does. There's really nothing to disagree with.
    So you agree with...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChokeAJudoka View Post
    Accomplishment of technique, art, or trick without the presence of significant moral, mental and spiritual attributes constitutes something entirely useless (unless you happen to be a cage fighter).
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    Yeah, if the only reason you do Judo is to learn how to fight - and you are not a professional competitor - then you are in it for the wrong reasons.

    As far as self defense goes, Judo is of course useful as a last resort. However, you take Judo to learn how to avoid conflict. Nobody on the street cares what color your belt is - my sensei was an Olympian, and he carries concealed.

    When asked what he would do if he were attacked, Kashiwazaki replied,"I'd find a big piece of wood."
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    So why do you learn judo?
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    So you agree with...



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    He's cherry picking, OwlMatt does that at times, kind of like you and everyone else on this website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    He's cherry picking, OwlMatt does that at times, kind of like you and everyone else on this website.
    I don't see how I'm cherry picking? I've just pointed out the obvious, since he pointed out something ever MORE obvious.
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    I don't see how I'm cherry picking? I've just pointed out the obvious, since he pointed out something ever MORE obvious.
    I think IiF is refering to OwlMatt cherry picking, but ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by doofaloofa View Post
    I think IiF is refering to OwlMatt cherry picking, but ...
    Thank you for the clarification! :) I misread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChokeAJudoka View Post
    Thank you for the clarification! :) I misread.
    You're welcome

    So why do you learn judo?
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