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    Quote Originally Posted by wikidbounce View Post
    Reading the Wikipedia article on the Starship Troopers film, Paul Verhoven only read the first few chapters.
    That explains how it goes from satirical social commentary Earth to a Michael Bay aliens movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    That explains how it goes from satirical social commentary Earth to a Michael Bay aliens movie.
    Can't see tits in a novel though can you poindexter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Fixed.
    Yamashita was definitely a Kodokan man in 1905; before 1884 he was associated with JJJ (Tenshin)
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    Size matters. Plain and simple.

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    The description of this match reminds me of Dan Severn vs. Royce Gracie.

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    Teddy Roosevelt on Wrestling vs. Jiujitsu 1905

    Interesting to note difference in this description vs traveling/catch wrestling that did not typically have problems with the jujitsu types.

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    Also notice the total racial stereotype of assuming Japanese men are tinier and weaker than white men.

    I don't think the Pacific theater Marines would agree that the Japanese couldn't hold their own in hand to hand...equally trained...

    Teddy was a little off now and then.

    Japanese, who though very good men for their inches and pounds are altogether too small to hold their own against big, powerful, quick men who are as well trained.
    Last edited by W. Rabbit; 11/22/2012 11:10pm at .

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Also notice the total racial stereotype of assuming Japanese men are tinier and weaker than white men.

    I don't think the Pacific theater Marines would agree that the Japanese couldn't hold their own in hand to hand...equally trained...

    Teddy was a little off now and then.
    On average japanese men are smaller than people in the US
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

    The equally trained part is the point if a smaller man beats a stronger man then generally they are better trained or at least more skilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmonkey View Post
    On average japanese men are smaller than people in the US
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

    The equally trained part is the point if a smaller man beats a stronger man then generally they are better trained or at least more skilled.
    Thanks professor.

    You didn't get it I guess, so you made a straw man, complete with a irrelevant Wiki reference to try somehow convince me Teddy, one of the most overtly racist US presidents in history, wasn't being overtly racist in his comments about the Japanese.

    Teddy was not talking about averages and statistics and no, Teddy did not say "average Japanese", especially since the statistics you referenced were not even available in his time (unless he had a time machine and internet access).

    Teddy literally said:

    one of our big wrestlers or boxers, simply because of his greatly superior strength, would be able to kill any of those Japanese
    Last edited by W. Rabbit; 11/23/2012 11:55am at .

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    Teddy Roosevelt on Wrestling vs. Jiujitsu 1905

    I think there was a much more casual attitude about saying racist stuff back then and it was perfectly respectable to have racial theories (and think some races were superior). So...I think he was just saying the skill was not enough to overcome a bigger wrestler or boxer like you find in the US.

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