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  1. goodlun is online now
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    One could accept this premise AND condemn it for its original use AND condemn the modern Japanese military for continuing to use it without being internally inconsistent.
    One certainly could. However until the Japanese military stop using it, it is hard to separate those out who are showing support to the Japanese military and those who are celebrating their deeds during WW2.
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    until the Japanese military stop using it, it is hard to separate those out who are showing support to the Japanese military and those who are celebrating their deeds during WW2.
    "Jeez, I can't tell if I should hate this guy or just dislike him."
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    "Jeez, I can't tell if I should hate this guy or just dislike him."
    The Picard-Riker double face palm may be appropriate in this instance.
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    The Picard-Riker double face palm may be appropriate in this instance.
    Thank you for not posting such a hurtful symbol.
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    despite waiting for babo78's longer response, i have yet to see a single person make a logical argument for why the rising sun flag should be held to a different standard than the US or UK flag.

    i presented my position, and no one has seen fit to show it to be logically incorrect, so i'm going to take that as a sign that people have been forced to admit through their silence that i am correct:

    • people have the right to be offended by anything they want, that's their business, but it's also their hang up.

    • there's nothing wrong with using the rising sun flag that isn't also wrong with using the US or UK flag, so anyone on a crusade against one may as well join the crusades against the others.
    "Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist View Post
    ...people have been forced to admit through their silence that i am correct.
    I'd say "twist my arm", but I'm too busy putting together a combination Dixie-Union Jack T-shirt.

    Damned if they don't compliment each other nicely...
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    I am going to start a Gi company called little boy wrestling jackets
    and this is going to be our logo
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    Thank you for not posting such a hurtful symbol.
    You do realise Picard is French don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist View Post
    despite waiting for babo78's longer response, i have yet to see a single person make a logical argument for why the rising sun flag should be held to a different standard than the US or UK flag.
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    Considered in the abstract the boxing ring is an altar of sorts, one of those legendary spaces where the laws of a nation are suspended: inside the ropes, during an officially regulated three-minute round, a man may be killed by his opponent's hands but he cannot be legally murdered. Boxing inhabits a sacred space predating civilization; or, to use D.H. Lawrence's phrase, before God was love. If it suggests a savage ceremony or a rite of atonement it also suggests the futility of such gestures. For what possible atonement is the fight waged if it must shortly be waged again... and again? The boxing match is the very image, the more terrifying for being so stylized, of mankind's collective aggression; its ongoing historical madness.
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    I'd be very pleased to complain about a US or UK flag at any time. Indeed, the only patriotic-themed gimmick I like is the nickname "American Psycho"!
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    Most French Canadians do not know anything about history except if it concerns Quebec. It's a failure of our education system. The history curriculum over the years has been modified to such an extent by the separatist Parti Québécois that it is basically unrecognizable as anything but propaganda for secession. They did the same thing with college-level literature. The only thing about WW2 I learned in school was the conscription crisis in the province, which is exceedingly stupid.

    No way GSP intended to wear the Rising Sun flag such as it is. Yeah, it's a tacky gi for a French white guy to wear, but lots of weeaboos here in Quebec.
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