Thread: Texas secession?
11/15/2012 7:58am, #141
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11/15/2012 9:45am, #142
Every State shall abide by the determination of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this Confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the Union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.
BTW, I find this fictional map interesting too.
11/15/2012 9:55am, #143
Do you have any idea how much federal money (taxpayer money), has been pumped into Texas in disaster funds alone? Take that FEMA disaster count (300 something) and multiply that by a few hundred million at least...it's a nice big number.
Everything in Texas is bigger, yep including their liplock on the federal teet, whether the secessionists realize it or not. Hell even Rick Perry is now backing away from his secessionist statements now...
The people who want secession....literally have no idea that their state relies on the Union for survival.
Think the cartel gangs are a problem now, with all the Federal support Texas gets? Wait and see what would happen if all Federal law enforcement and US military were pulled out of Texas...
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11/15/2012 5:42pm, #144
Even if it did have an effect, that clause also indicates the Union is perpetual.
I think the other thing to keep in mind about the apparent "revolution or consent of the states" exception in the Texas v. White decision is the historical context. The decision is from 1869, a time at which the possibility of a state's rebellion was not theoretical. Moreover, "the consent of the States" was not merely to be guessed at, but recently had been in action; there was no consent given. In fact, the position of the US Government had emphatically been that no consent would be given to dissolve the Union. It could very well be that the phrase was a legal and polite way of saying, "when you win the next violent disagreement or hell freezes over!"
11/15/2012 11:24pm, #145
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Why is it only people outside of Texas seem to be talking about this whole secession thing?
11/16/2012 1:26am, #146
11/16/2012 2:48am, #147
11/16/2012 5:43am, #148
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11/16/2012 6:35pm, #149
11/16/2012 6:35pm, #150
What percentage of the US armed forces are Texan and what proportion of US military hardware and installations are in Texas?
As in some theoretical secession scenario it is not unthinkable that many Texans serving in the US military would withdraw their service and re-join a hypothetical Texan military, similarly with hardware and kit.
Would the remaining states really want to enact sanctions against/ go to war with Texas to recover the planes, tanks, ships, nukes, etc... stationed in Texas?
These are questions that have arisen as part of talk around Scottish independence and would have to be answered if Texas ever voted for independence. Scotland, being run by socialists wants to get rid of the Crown's nuclear weapons, however, Texas would doubtless want to retain the Federal nuclear weapons stationed on it's soil.
These all raise interesting questions as to how military resources would be apportioned. That is even before you get onto questions of national debt and the like.