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    Quote Originally Posted by Keej613 View Post
    I'm with this guy. A year of any martial arts training is better than a year of no martial training.
    Maybe if your goal is to increase your fitness.
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    My MMA gym stopped its judo classes because the boss felt it doesn't transfer very well and the overlap with BJJ for what is easily applicable is rather big. He claims that the only people who are dominant with judo are top level players and then still it takes a considerable amount time to convert them to MMA. In short, judo's good, but something else will prepare much quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff View Post
    Maybe if your goal is to increase your fitness.
    If your only goal is to increase fitness, spend your time in the gym not the dojo.
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    Some thought-provoking responses here. I think I'll probably be going ahead with judo.

    Cheers, lads.
    And let me know if any of ye judokas are in Edinburgh next year.
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    As already said: assuming the club is worth its salt you will learn takedowns, groundwork, and submissions. That is a pretty great base for MMA, if you can't or aren't interested in just training at an MMA gym. I also think that the strong emphasis on fast, dominating groundwork with a strong top game and speedy submissions (especially transitioning quickly from throw to pin or sub) are a nice place to start for MMA as well. There seems to be a bit stronger emphasis in MMA on top position, at least from a judging and ground and pound situation.

    I have been in Judo for about a year and my previous club trained about 60-70% standing and 30-40% groundwork. I wouldn't hop in the ring/cage tomorrow, but I feel that I have a good start on my grappling basics. And, really, that is about as far as you will get in any martial art that is worth its salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashkelon View Post
    My MMA gym stopped its judo classes because the boss felt it doesn't transfer very well and the overlap with BJJ for what is easily applicable is rather big. He claims that the only people who are dominant with judo are top level players and then still it takes a considerable amount time to convert them to MMA. In short, judo's good, but something else will prepare much quicker.
    I would not go as far as to say Judo throws do not transfer well in MMA. I donít agree with that at all. Judo has shown its success at all levels of MMA. However, the people I have seen with success in MMA that also has a Judo background are all at least ranked at shodan and for the average person shodan takes several years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keej613 View Post
    I'm with this guy. A year of any martial arts training is better than a year of no martial training.
    sorry. I can't agree with that. there are some seriously shitty martial arts out there which are largely a waste of time & you'll just be pissed when you realize it. talk about a morale drain.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

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    if you want Judo transferability, get a book called "Street Stoppers" by Mark Mireles.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    if you want Judo transferability, get a book called "Street Stoppers" by Mark Mireles.
    Maybe Santy will bring it.

    I've been watching some of Karo Parisyan's videos on no-gi throws for MMA. A poor substitute for actual training, especially given that I've no uke to practice on, but better than nothing.
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    Judo's problem for MMA is more of image because people will see a throw against a padded floor on someone who is trained to land isn't going to do that much damage and associated it with Judo. A good throw will get them in a good position for ground work which is then more associated with BJJ
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