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    I trained with Bob for a few years, a few years ago. He's a solid dude. The "snake" style is supposed to be a family variation of the Yang style. A few years ago there was a video floating around of Yang Sau Chung doing a variation of the long form that is pretty different from the more commonly seen version, and is also clearly what Bob is doing. It's also clearly the same form as Ip Tai Tak, who was Yang Sau Chung's disciple, IIRC. I'll poke around and see if I can find the vids (I think the ones with IP are on Bob's site).
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    Ok, here's the video of Ip from Bob's site:
    http://www.ipfamilytaichi.org/movies...-1000-pop.html

    and here's a vid of Yang, Sau Chung:
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    Thanks comrade.
    Looks like I'll be getting the book today.
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    That actually looks strikingly similar to Chang Naizhou's family style. Very interesting. Thank you again for the link.
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    Let me know what you think of the book. I haven't been in touch with Bob much lately, but I'd be interested to see what he put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sri Hanuman View Post
    I would venture a guess that it wouldn't be stylistically different, but more likely than not would have subtly different stance/application/grip/empahsis during technique application. Maybe conditioning drills, etc.
    This is the case in what I have been taught. More drilling of small groups of techniques/ mini 'forms' if you like. We have a 'snake body' form also sometimes called a dragon body form. Also a 'turtle' form but we don't concave the chest to round the back which seems to be whats going on with the Ip stuff. Reminds me of some 'shortfist' ie: pakmei/south mantis. Though there are variations in the way those are done too..

    Be interested to know what the mainland based Yang family think of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonance10 View Post
    This is the case in what I have been taught. More drilling of small groups of techniques/ mini 'forms' if you like. We have a 'snake body' form also sometimes called a dragon body form. Also a 'turtle' form but we don't concave the chest to round the back which seems to be whats going on with the Ip stuff.
    Be interested to know what the mainland based Yang family think of this.
    This is basically what he told me in our email exchange.
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    I would love to go over the Bob Boyd book, the Ip Tai Tak videos, the form shown by Yang Sau Chung, and cross reference them to the Chang Naizhou material.

    Lowsy work and family taking up my reading time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sri Hanuman View Post
    I would love to go over the Bob Boyd book, the Ip Tai Tak videos, the form shown by Yang Sau Chung, and cross reference them to the Chang Naizhou material.

    Lowsy work and family taking up my reading time...
    Is there a particular Chang style form you would use or are you talking about the written material?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sri Hanuman View Post
    I would love to go over the Bob Boyd book, the Ip Tai Tak videos, the form shown by Yang Sau Chung, and cross reference them to the Chang Naizhou material.

    Lowsy work and family taking up my reading time...
    Could be reading instead of posting..*shrugs*
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