"I Love College"

**goodlun** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 6:36pm

oh and here is the other tool you will use a lot doing networks

**itwasntme** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 6:49pm

Everything you have said makes sense, but it seems most other fields are just as competitive. My dad just went through RN school and he's been telling me it's getting to where even the health field doesn't want to fool with you if you don't have 4 years under your belt. Automotives I thought I liked, tried it, wasn't for me. It seems like it could also run into the same problems.

That picture didn't serve as a deterrent for me, but the job security part did. I would really like to get into the field, but I'm going to look at some other options as well.

If anyone wants to offer up advice on a good career choice, I'm all ears.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 7:01pm

Let me be clear I am not trying to discourage you just show you the realities. If you don't already know a tracert or ping command odds are you just don't care enough about computers to do much with them.
Here if you can make your way through these articles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmi...ntrol_Protocol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic...ation_Protocol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet

then after all that has been read one last one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetting

Feel free to youtube the various topics as well.

That pretty much covers the real basics of Networking if you can get them and understand them without a teacher hovering over you with the exception of subnetting(it is on the more complex side), then it is worth pursuing.
This is pretty much a week 1 overview of networking.

My best advise as to figure out what you want to do, take a bunch of intro classes at your local community college.

**itwasntme** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 7:31pm

Originally Posted by goodlun

Let me be clear I am not trying to discourage you just show you the realities.

Understood and appreciated.

If you don't already know a tracert or ping command odds are you just don't care enough about computers to do much with them.

Up until recently, I didn't care about anything of actual importance so in addition to being young I am still trying to find myself. The only thing I know I'm good at, physical labor aside, is cooking which I absolutely detest. I just want to do something that is gonna provide for my family and not break my body down by the time I'm 32. But that is my main issue, I love being active and aside from ass busting jobs I can't think of anything I would wake up in the morning thinking "Oh boy, I'm fixing to go to work!!"

Here if you can make your way through these articles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmi...ntrol_Protocol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic...ation_Protocol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet

then after all that has been read one last one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetting

Feel free to youtube the various topics as well.

That pretty much covers the real basics of Networking if you can get them and understand them without a teacher hovering over you with the exception of subnetting(it is on the more complex side), then it is worth pursuing.
This is pretty much a week 1 overview of networking.

My best advise as to figure out what you want to do, take a bunch of intro classes at your local community college.

I will definitely go over this information this week and see what I feel from it.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 7:34pm

Just curious whats wrong with becoming a journeyman plumber, electrician, or other job that really can't be outsourced, that will keep you out of the office but not be so rough on your body?

**itwasntme** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 7:55pm

I don't know anything real about those jobs, but I can give you what I think I know.

Plumber: Doesn't necessarily sound so bad except for having to deal with peoples' **** pipes.

Electrician: I see these dudes out in the piss pouring rain in a weak ass poncho in a metal hydraulic lift 50 ft in the air fucking with electricity. Sounds shady at best.

But this is just my uneducated opinion. I really wanted to go through a course book to see what all my options are, but they don't print them anymore. Luckily I just got my PC up and running so maybe I can find a copy online. I'm so used to not having a computer I forget it's there lol.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 8:21pm

If you want to make money you have to do one or both of two things.
Do things that other people will not do.
Do things that other people can not do.
With the one caveat these things have to be something people need done.

**itwasntme** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 8:51pm

Originally Posted by goodlun

If you want to make money you have to do one or both of two things.
Do things that other people will not do.
Do things that other people can not do.
With the one caveat these things have to be something people need done.

This is gold.

Looks like I have a lot to think about over next semester.

**Devil** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 9:22pm

If you're going to go to college don't pick the easy route. You will waste your fucking time and end up with jack ****. Don't get a degree in Communication, or Art History, or Philosophy, etc. Because with those degrees your best case scenario is that you'll end up doing some bottom of the rung administrative job in a corporate setting. Those degrees will get you nowhere.

Take the hard road. Get a degree(s) in Engineering, Accounting, Finance, Law - something that will give you some real qualifications you can compete with in the marketplace. Otherwise, you'll be much better off learning a trade.

**itwasntme** · Posted On: 11/04/2012 9:46pm

Originally Posted by Devil

If you're going to go to college don't pick the easy route. You will waste your fucking time and end up with jack ****. Don't get a degree in Communication, or Art History, or Philosophy, etc. Because with those degrees your best case scenario is that you'll end up doing some bottom of the rung administrative job in a corporate setting. Those degrees will get you nowhere.

I didn't realise I came off as the artsy, liberal type. I'm a little disgusted with myself right now.

Take the hard road. Get a degree(s) in Engineering, Accounting, Finance, Law - something that will give you some real qualifications you can compete with in the marketplace. Otherwise, you'll be much better off learning a trade.

And here is a huge problem. I don't know if it's just this school or what, but I can't get any real information about what one would get out of particular degrees. Accounting and Finance sound like they would be the same thing to me. I think colleges should have someone that can explain this **** to you. I spoke with one of the admissions counselors and she could hardly tell me anything about what programs even existed in the field I was wanting (computers). The last one I spoke with didn't even know about the Computer Engineering program.