Thread: "I Love College"
11/06/2012 1:18pm, #121
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The answer to your question is simple. It depends. It depends on the employer.
For instance, I look heavily at educational background when selecting candidates for employment, even when the position may not require it. The reason is that I think it speaks to whether people habitually take the easy road. I enjoy throwing people's resumes in the trash when they went to an online clown college. There are a lot of those people these days, so it helps people stand out when they went to a real school.
If the position doesn't require a specific educational background I like to pick the people who had a difficult major. I hire a lot of entry level business people. I'll take someone with a mathematics degree over someone with a sociology degree any day of the week. That's just how I roll.
I have colleagues who don't give a **** if someone went to Phoenix or Yale. That's just how those dumb motherfuckers roll. They're idiots, but they get to hire people just like I do. A lot of a job seeker's potential for success when interviewing relies on luck of the draw.
Edit - to Rabbit. You're right. The good ole' boy network is real. Best get plugged in so you don't get left behind.
11/06/2012 1:19pm, #122
Yes, that's part and parcel of a Harvard MBA, so yes the degree is "better".
Are you trying to argue that the course work at Harvard doesn't live up to it's reputation?
I'm certain Harvard, at least used to, pride themselves on a very high attrition rate, particularly at the law school.
11/06/2012 1:21pm, #123
11/06/2012 1:24pm, #124
I worked as an intern during my senior year of (state) college. A few of my classmates had 'juice', 'yank', 'pull' or 'stroke' if you will, and were able to do work-study with engineering firms. They were getting paid, and paid well. I was doing the same type of work for free.
I ended up getting a job with my sponsor. I was a 'have not', and wasn't politically connected; what got my foot in the door, was a recommendation from my fluid mechanics professor. What kept me working until I chose to leave that field, was work ethic and dedication.
College education in general is wasted on some people.
11/06/2012 1:28pm, #125
Nepotism and Family Friends go a long way.
11/06/2012 1:29pm, #126
Some degrees prepare you nicely. You know, even starting as a middle manager in big department store isn't that bad. His dreams are simple enough.
And do you really think Harvard MBAs go to work as middle managers in department stores?
And I called him out on it because "Harvard MBA = 95% employed" can easily include middle management retail jobs at department stores.
The fallacy is thinking Harvard MBAs end up sitting on gold thrones collecting big paychecks....nope once out in the "field" they're as vulnerable and have to work as hard as most other folks. And they take all sorts of biz mgmt jobs...even at Macy's, Target, and Walmart.
Last edited by W. Rabbit; 11/06/2012 1:33pm at .
11/06/2012 1:32pm, #127
Please show me a Harvard MBA who works at say, Macy's (edit) in middle management.
11/06/2012 1:36pm, #128
My real question comes to hiring above entry level. At this point are you still heavily focused on where the education came from or more focused on relevant job experience. I will assume all things being equal your still going to take the guy with the better pedigree, but how much does that pedigree compare against real world experience.
11/06/2012 1:37pm, #129
11/06/2012 1:39pm, #130
Are we talking an assistant manager, a store manager, a regional manager, a logistics manager.
I highly doubt to many of them are doing anything on a store by store level.
I can see them doing something in the middle management corporate level in this current environment unlikely but I can see it happening. IE Manager of Marketing for CA or something.